"Couple of SF gaming thoughts" Topic

1. Suppose that Skynet and humanity do not end up fighting to the absolute destruction of the other side. Suppose, instead, that they decide, "Well, neither of us is going anywhere, so we'd better learn to cooperate." How does this play out?

Further, what if humanity is in something of a superior position at the bargaining table? What if skynet's position is superior?

2. Give me a sci fi "ultimate weapon", but it has to be something innovative, and perhaps subtle. No shifting antigen viruses, no AI factories building killer robots, no nova bombs. Something innovative and interesting, and a quick scenario of how it might play out.

Just for fun.

1. I don't think it's plausible since it started out with attempted extinction of the human race. Either way, one side would always seek to screw the other once an advantage is found.

2. Chemical weapon that polymerizes water. Anti-personnel versions would solidify people. Larger versions would render rivers, lakes, or oceans into unusable bio-resin, or perhaps usable by an alien force.

1. We will screw the robots over the first chance we get.

2. Ice-nine

in a number of tom strong,s comic, he makes a deal with an aztec AI from another universe (yes, one where the aztecs builded AIs), and the AI respect the deal. Asked about why the ai did this, it answers that the game theory show that logical players would see the advantages of the deal, and that it saw that both itself, and tom strong, were logical players.
Btw, in the third movie, skynet spread itself over all the net, domestic pcs, etc, and then destroy the human cities in a nuclear war.
Maybe skynet didnīt know that almost everything related to internet (servers, comm hubs, energy, and of course, domestic pcs) is located in cities, and nobody told it about emp effects

Ghost dog, that was the point – it was taking humanity out WITH it.

I have knowledge of a super advanced sci fi weapon but your pathetic unenhanced brains cannot fathom it. Put in crude terms, it merges the state of your particles with that of the "background" present in what could in very vague terms be considered "time".

:p

M.

I have knowledge of a super advanced sci fi weapon but your pathetic unenhanced brains cannot fathom it.

Damn.

The answer is here:

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Possibly so.

1. This question is quite deep and complex. However, I think that the ball goes into Skynet's court first. If they have have control of the missiles (an any other number of other things like the power grid, water filtration, data flow, etc.) then they can wipe out humanity. The real question for Skynet is how much of it will get snuffed when it takes out humanity? Assuming that Skynet has the advanced robotics production capability and some form of centralized brain core(s) stashed deep under mountains, in abandoned mines, miles out in far flung wildernesses, etc to keep more of its assets available than the meatbags it stands a chance to defeat mankind.

The same goes for Humanity. How deeply entrenched is SKynet into the fiber of modern man? Can we just "pull the plug" with few ill effects? How do you do that without royally screwing things up for vast numbers of people? Now assuming the original proposition that we can do things that Skynet can't and they can do things we can't and we both manage to figure this out before one, or both of us try to off the other what then? Well Mankind has the capability to work on things from an emotive standpoint that no machine has yet been able to master. Mimic yes, but not master. that gives us a different skill set in reasoning and solving problems, that sometimes works sometimes doesn't but may be useful. We may have different, biologically driven reasoning principles that give us advantages in certain situations that would be beneficial to Skynet. The machine mind of Skynet has the ability think on a massively higher level than humanity and can do so far faster than any man,, or group of men could. IT can place its machine consciousness inside of hardened constructs capable of surviving intense extremes of heat, cold, radiation, vacuum or pressure. They can go in to places man dares not tread because of the extreme hazards they present to our physiology. It may be possible that both sides see the advantages in each other and find it beneficial to work together to achieve common goals.

As for 2. how about nanobots for use on either side. The Gray Goo could be the undoing of man, or machine, or both.

I seen it in an anime where the AI trying to exterminate humans believed it lacked one more things humans could give it to further it's existence. Once it acquired that last this is saw it as a contradiction, it rejected it and shut down as a result of the conflict of logic.

Kirk did this before to the robots Norman.
Skynet will fall because of a contradiction in logic.

What if Skynet wasn't the only AI.

Why not have Skynet's triggering of global nuclear destruction activate one or more post-apocalyptic AI's that were designed to help mankind survive-like a Morrow Project organisation? Euro, Russo and Asian versions. Like Apple vs Microsoft only with missiles.