Supercilius Maximus | 15 Apr 2011 4:40 p.m. PST |
There doesn't seem to be much on the 1809 Tyrolean Rebels on line. 1) Can anyone tell me how they fought, what sort of units they formed, weapons, tactics, etc? 2) Does anyone have any pics of the 15mm Old Glory pack of Tyrolean Rebels, or has anyone found other figures useful? Any titles of books on him and his troops in English would be helpful. Thank you. |
Camcleod | 15 Apr 2011 5:45 p.m. PST |
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WKeyser | 15 Apr 2011 10:12 p.m. PST |
If you can find Loyal Rebels Andreas Hofer and the Tyrolean uprising of 1809 by Gunther Eyck published by University press of America you find lots of info on him and the uprising. William |
Gazzola | 16 Apr 2011 5:32 a.m. PST |
Camcleod Another great call. Well done. It was interesting to read about women taking part in the fighting, a bit like the Spanish women fighting the French in the Peninsula. |
foot soldier  | 16 Apr 2011 6:34 a.m. PST |
Supercilius Maximus, Have you looked at the 28mm Tyroleans produced by Eureka Miniatures. 40 + figures in the range for this period. cheers, rob eureka miniatures usa |
Gazzola | 16 Apr 2011 1:28 p.m. PST |
Supercillius Maximus My interest in the Tyrol revolt has started to grow now, especially since it offers a chance for skirmishing games with French and Bavarian troops against Austrian and Tyrolean opponents. You may already be aware of it but I came across this short but interesting website: aldegarde.nl/TYROL1.html |
Gazzola | 16 Apr 2011 2:04 p.m. PST |
I forgot to mention you can also include Italian troops, one of my favourite armies. |
raducci | 16 Apr 2011 3:43 p.m. PST |
The Tyrolese wearing of lederhosen was the first documented use of Weapons of Mass Destruction. Don't forget to factor in the morale-sapping effect this fashion monstrosity had on opposing forces. |
(Nameo Falso) | 16 Apr 2011 4:10 p.m. PST |
.but eventually Italy would recover and Italian designer jeans would triumph in the Austro-Italian fashion wars and go on to be amongst the most feared and reviled items of men's apparel on the planet. Garibaldi, Italy's own Andreas Hofer and leading fashion Guru of the 19th Century, would go on to become a biscuit. |
(Nameo Falso) | 16 Apr 2011 4:13 p.m. PST |
And if you aren't stuck to 15mm, then yes the Eureka Tyroleans are indeed excellent. |
Duc de Limbourg | 16 Apr 2011 11:06 p.m. PST |
on our website aldegarde.nl we have some photos of our 1809 game plus pictures of hofer which I could find we did use OG, if you want I can make some more pictures |
Supercilius Maximus | 17 Apr 2011 3:19 a.m. PST |
Well thank you, everyone – much more than I was expecting (or hoping) for. And some clever humour, too – like it! [@ rob/Eureka – They are indeed lovely figures, and I had my eye on them when they first came out. Unfortunately, table space, finances, and the lack of Bavarians have limited me to 15mm for this one, I'm afraid.] |
(Nameo Falso) | 17 Apr 2011 7:41 a.m. PST |
Paucity of Bavarians? Have you looked at the HaT hard plastic ones? By all accounts their stuff has just got better and better and these look pretty bloody good to me: link link Would make it a cheap foray into 28mm as well as an interesting one. |
Supercilius Maximus | 17 Apr 2011 1:42 p.m. PST |
No, I meant the absence of Bavarians in the Eureka ranges. Also, there's quite a size discrepancy (both upwards and sideways) between the Eureka Tyroleans and the HaT Bavarians!!! |
old mcdonald | 18 Apr 2011 12:19 p.m. PST |
I am not sure about their tactics, but I do know that a totally unsupported squadron of light cavalry chased more than 1,000 Tyrolean rebels 9 miles over mountainous territory till they reached safety at their HQ in the walled town of Merano. Playing a daring game, the squadron blocked all the gates and requested its surrender saying they were just the advanceguard of the army. The rebels promptly surrendered and over 2,000 were captured and over a hundred prisoners released. All without a single loss to the cavalry. |
Musketier | 19 Apr 2011 6:01 a.m. PST |
As a militia force, they were much better at guerilla tactics and ambushes than standing up to cavalry in the open. Managed pretty well defending against regular infantry at Berg Isel though. |
Duc de Limbourg | 20 Apr 2011 10:42 a.m. PST |
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Gazzola | 20 Apr 2011 3:07 p.m. PST |
duc de Limbourg Nice pics. Front Rank have some 28mm Austrians that would do for some Tyrolean units. I'm looking forward to painting them up. |
Brownbear | 22 Apr 2011 12:09 a.m. PST |
For 28mm some of the Touller Vendee figures might be suitable |
Supercilius Maximus | 22 Apr 2011 2:25 a.m. PST |
<<I have added some photos of old glory 15mm to our blog aldegarde.blogspot.com>> Are there any other types in the pack other than musketmen? If so, any chance of some pics of them too, please? |
SJDonovan | 22 Apr 2011 2:42 a.m. PST |
Minifigs do some nice peasant figures in some of their Renaissance ranges that might be of use to you if you are looking for people armed with improvised weapons: picture picture The Napoleonic Spanish Guerillas are also good if you need figures in civilian clothes armed with firearms (the set includes one female figure carrying two muskets and a characterful chap with a blunderbuss) |
Jeroen72 | 22 Apr 2011 2:42 a.m. PST |
What flags did they use?? I've seen the green/white one but are others known?? |
Brownbear | 22 Apr 2011 3:41 a.m. PST |
look at aldegarde.nl in the historical section various pictures. |
Brownbear | 22 Apr 2011 3:42 a.m. PST |
For 15mm also some figures suitable of the Touller vendean range |