"A Possible Solution to the TMP Napoleonic Problem" Topic

A Christmas Story sounds like a film (sorry, movie) well worth missing.

All right. That's it. I shall have to ask you to step outside.

20th,

Absolutely correct. The IWM was built in 1936 to hold exhibits from WW1 on the grounds of the old Bethlem Hospital commonly called Bedlam. The IWM now includes exhibits from WW2 and later wars and part of the building are the remains of the old mental hospital.

Bill

For anyone interested in skirmish-gaming A Christmas Story the figures are available: link

Not sure which rules would be best. Probably need to start a new thread for that. Or maybe a new board?

urban skirmish board, I like it

Urban Yuletide Movie Skirmish Board – I don't think we should go too broad church on this.

sjDonovan@perfect!

Did I miss something ? ,Must have fallen asleep on class agian.

I love the way Ralphie passes his Morale Test and goes Impetuous.

John the OFM,
A Christmas Story may well be iconic on your side of the pond but, mercifully, this sort of schlock is not part of the seasonal entertainment in Britain, where we have The Great Escape, a much superior film (movie) as our regular festive TV blockbuster. (You may know it, Steve McQueen gets to ride a motorbike rather well.)
As far as stepping outside with you goes, I thumb my nose at you. I am, sir, a lover not a fighter. Please desist from these brash challenges which only show you in a poor light.

I am, sir, a lover not a fighter

but are you also a Pompatus?

Pat

And as saying that ALWAYS results in someone with no google-fu saying 'Yeah, what DOES Pompatus mean?

Some people call me the space cowboy.
Yeah! Some call me the gangster of love.
Some people call me Maurice,
'Cause I speak of the pompatus of love.

The phrases "space cowboy" and "gangster of love" are both references to previous Miller songs. The "pompatus" line is also a reference to an earlier song of his, "Enter Maurice", which was recorded the previous year:[1]

My dearest darling, come closer to Maurice
so I can whisper sweet words of epismetology
in your ear and speak to you of the pompatus of love.

Although Miller claims he invented the words "epismetology" (metathesis of epistemology) and "pompatus," all of his song-writing demonstrates strong rhythm and blues influences, and a 1954 song called "The Letter" by the Medallions had the lines:[1]

Oh my darling, let me whisper
sweet words of pizmotality
and discuss the puppetutes of love.

The song was composed by Vernon Green as a description of his dream woman.[1] "Pizmotality described words of such secrecy that they could only be spoken to the one you loved," Green explained. He coined the term puppetutes "to mean a secret paper-doll fantasy figure who would be my everything and bear my children."[1]

Pat

Does anyone know if ay of the paper terrain/figures manufacturers do Puppetutes yet ?

There was me thinking it was "prophetess". And indeed still thinking so.

Sane Max, I was humming it as I was writing. I guess I still try to be a joker but I'm no longer a smoker nor a midnight toker. I confess I hadn't a clue about pompatus until your erudite intervention. Er, still not sure what it means though.

Gentlemen, please restrain your diversions! We are trying to settle the very serious matter of which party has the longer bricoles here.

[sid james]Look at the bricoles on 'er, corrrr[/sj]

interresting…

I come here to perfect my english (well, sort of!) and usually go for long posts (many answers) and see if I can understand everything (I usually do)

we had a yahoo group in french that boasted such fellows. It was very boring, but with foreign language thrown in it, it makes more fun reading.

If I admit having read that gribeauval was Classical Dancer with a tutu as a hobby and Liechtenstein played NHL during his grad' time, will the argument bounce again?

one can only hope…

Just so you know, I rather resent the term 'toadie'.

Wait, you were the one calling people names in another thread ('jessies,' I believe was your pejorative of choice, in one of the recent stifling discussions.) So, glass houses and all that?

Folks, You are wasted here. The resident idiots have gone back the books board:-)

Bill

To be fair, there are plenty of people here who delve into the minutia of the period to flesh out their rules or their interpretation of history – their reasons are their own.

The "academics", such as Hollins and Kiley, oblige and provide their interpretations. If only it were to stop there…

Napoleonic gamers (but they are not alone, WWII gamers come to mind) for some reason get right down into the mud of the details. So really they should share some of the blame.

There is only one solution: self restraint on the part of the combatants:
So Dave and Kevin, yes thanks for your contributions to our collective knowledge. However, let it be. You know by now that you aren't going to win over the other side. We aren't interested in your personal battles. State your point and your reasons and then get out of Dodge…

And if I want to play with death ray artillery or Bruce Quarries rules, that's my choice. It's just a damn game and not a practical thesis.

PS If anyone complains at my game that I used the wrong illustration to paint my figures, he's out the door….

well said Rob

I believe the salient historiographical points are well illustrated by Professor FJ Lewis in his definitive study of Romanticism and Industrialization, YouTube link

'Dave Hollins' slagging off Nosworthy??!?? Pah!

What's a Welsh goalkeeper doing pontificating on a Napoleonics forum anyway?

I presume it is he, rather than the Space Cadet on Radio 4…….

Or is this getting to be just another "Clash of Egos" thread (with apologies to Rutman)

Double Bricoles all round barman!

I too am a lover, not a fighter… which is ironic, as they don't half put up a struggle sometimes…

1815 – No, a baseball player!

Wait, you were the one calling people names in another thread ('jessies,' I believe was your pejorative of choice, in one of the recent stifling discussions.) So, glass houses and all that?

Correct. Nobody was stopping them expressing their dislike of the term either. However your point is well made and not one that I can reasonably counter.

1815Guy

No one should be surprised by Mr. Hollins criticising another author, in this case, Nosworthy. Even though he has only published a few Osprey titles and ONE chapter in a book, he think it places him above all other authors.

And I've lost count of all the authors he has criticised, which is usually anyone who has published a hard back book containing just their own work. He is so jealous of them that just has to pull them down to make himself feel better. A shame really. You'd think he'd be used to it by now.

The gangs all here now.unreal.

You think its just Nosworthy who Dave slags, "hell no"
Chandler, Esposito, Elting, Arnold, Kiley, Weider etc…
and it goes on and on just go back in time and you
will see. He knock's others for there criticisms of
him but he he takes the cake. He is perfect in his
own mind.

General Brock

Well, he has had a 'whole' chapter in a book published, so that obviously makes him important now, well in his mind anyway. Rather sad really, isn't it?

Ever notice that no later than Page 3, every discussion has degenerated into a waste of bandwidth?

Yes Dasher and to think we could be doing more useful
things than this. Like talking Miniatures and wargaming.

Regards
James

There is no "Napoleonics Problem" on the TMP boards.
"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves, that we are underlings."
A little rising above ourselves to a level of good manners is all that's needed.

Logic would dictate that a board on warfare should have……….some wars! ;-)

To cut down on interpersonal conficts, all participants at wargaming clubs and tournaments should come armed with modern handguns…fully loaded. My personal choice is a Smith & Wesson revolver chambered in .45 Colt. I also recommend the use of smokeless powder since black powder obscures the gaming room with clouds of white smoke, which increases the time before the gaming can resume.

"An armed society is a polite society."

John Tyson,

An intersting solution. I spent most of this evening considering it and came to the conclusion that there is no possibilty that I could carry sufficient ammuntion about my person to make it a practical proposition.

Bill

XV Brigada

You just need to learn moderation. I've found that when there were several locked and loaded guns with the business ends pointed at my person all at the same time, I learned quickly to moderate my behavior.

two threads in less than 5 days which have had folk posting about shooting other folk.

This is unacceptable even in jest.

come on guys, settle down a bit

Keraunos,

(Please read the below in a quiet, friendly tone of voice.)

I can see where jesting about shooting one another can be disturbing to you. You are correct, it is a completely absurd jest. I think it is safe to say that most of us Americans have a different view of firearms than Europeans. For the most part, we are somewhat calmer about them and more familiar with them. My other hobbies are Upland Bird Hunting and Cowboy Action Shooting.

As I understand it, this thread is about proper behavior towards one another. Sometimes the disturbing humor of an absurd jest makes the point.

And, if folks jesting about shooting other folks is unacceptable, where does that put folks who are historical wargamers modeling battles where thousands of folks were shooting at other folks? Certainly, our rolling dice 'in anger' does not compare to the fear, death, and horror of actual combat. Ours is only a game and should be differentiated.

Please accept my apologies for my unacceptable jest.

John Tyson,

I didn't think you were serious. I certainly wasn't. I really don't see any need to apolgise but if I have offended anybody's sensibilities then I am, of course, also very sorry.

Bill

Keraunos,

Lord knows I'm no big fan of Bill's and he certainly doesn't need (nor probably want) me to stand up for him but I for one didn't for a second think he was being serious, nor has anybody else, myself included, who in the past have suggersted certain issues he be settled by gunplay or duelling. At times it needs a ridiculous suggestion to fit a ridiculous situation.

However it is also in no way distasteful or unacceptable and even though Bill was (tongue firmly in cheek) alluding to the likes of me with his 'not enough ammo' joke, I thought nothing other than it was rather witty, and certainly not something to apologise for.

Perhaps it's just that our two sides in this tedious brawl have got to the point where neutrals treat our every wiord with scepticism or scorn. A sorry state if that's the case, but not necessarily surprising.

Old Bear,

My mother was an old bear wrestler. My dad was an old bear.

Are we related?

Old Bear,

Quite happy to have you 'on-side'.

I think it was Churchill who said to the effect that if Hitler invaded Hell he'd make a pact with the Devil.

Bill

My mother was an old bear wrestler. My dad was an old bear.

Are we related?

John, my only known relatives in the States centre around the guy who founded Barstow on Route 66, which, I believe, is widely regarded as a right dump, although never having been there I couldn't possibly say!

I think it was Churchill who said to the effect that if Hitler invaded Hell he'd make a pact with the Devil.

Bill, yes indeed, sounds about right for Winston and very witty once more!

Hi

I have been to Barstow a number of times. And it is not a garden spot!

Rocky

Barstow is a wonderful place to stop on the way to the central California wine country, …oh I almost forgot, and the NTC. Will

"nobody in their right mind is going to stand up and support Hitler on the WW2 boards, are they?"

Nope they reserve their admiration for lower ranking Nazis (viz. recent postings on a certain tank commander)

Barstow is a wonderful place to stop on the way to the central California wine country

Hopefully one day I'll get there just to say I've been!

"nobody in their right mind is going to stand up and support Hitler on the WW2 boards, are they?"

Nope they reserve their admiration for lower ranking Nazis (viz. recent postings on a certain tank commander)

True, but I think it is often considered more 'acceptable' to have a degree of admiration for one of the combat officers. How far up the tree such levels of admiration go are, of course, open to debate.