"Red Dawn re-make digitally alters Chinese into Koreans!?" Topic

Apparently they are digitally altering their villains in order to make the film more appealing to potential distributors.

Producer Tripp Vinson Addresses The Nationality Shift Of The Remake's Villains:

"The changes made to Red Dawn in the last few weeks were made in consultation with military think tanks and people that specialize in game theory. Really smart people that spend their days constructing doomsday scenarios for our military and government. The type of people that know the limitations of the North Korean military. The type of people that can project a series of events that could lead to some very scary things happening to our Country. I can assure you, we listened well to those people, especially with regards to the capability of the North Korean military."

Really? Who are these really smart people who actually think North Korea could undertake an invasion of the continental United States, let alone the logistics involved in that kind of undertaking!?

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Red Dawn became Homefront the video game. It's even written by the same guy (Milius). Pay particular attention to this rationale:

The antagonists in Homefront were originally intended to be Chinese, but were later replaced by North Koreans (or "unified Koreans" according to the story) for two reasons: a possible backlash by the Chinese Ministry of Culture and the reality of economic interdependence between America and China that made the Chinese "not that scary". Said Tae Kim, a former CIA field agent on the game's backstory, and a consultant: "we went to a very rigorous, academic research process to make sure to not only look at North Korea's current state but to look at historical examples how things could parallel and turn events.

You can read all about it on wikipedia:

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@ Rassilon – What, and you think the Chinese can undertake that sort of invasion?

I feel situation has more to do with MGM needing to raise money for the release of this and other films they have in the pipeline and realising that the only funding out there is Chinese.

How cares? Really? Who cares? The movie was horrible dreck when it was produced in the first place, based on completely false premises, and capabilities (which still don't exist, by the way) and it is purely a fantasy. You might as well talk about The Postman with that other bloke who can't act. Neither film is going to get an Oscar nod, but both may become cult classics of silly 80's style movies with unbelievable premises.

We should care because it shows the kind of clout the Chinese have in Hollyweird.

Jason
Stafford, VA

Not like Hollywood minds losing money to put out a message (Redacted, Valley of Elah and more). Guess Chinese = potential bad guy was not a message they think should be put out and therefore will sell out to avoid it.

I think aliens are far more likely to invade the earth than any other nation is to try to breach U.S. coastal waters in an overt act. The whole idea of remaking a semi-decent 80s movie and modernizing it was just completely moronic. Who bets this thing goes straight to DVD and no one buys it anyways? It'll probably be on the level of Starship Troopers 3: Marauder. Which, even I as a rabid SST fan, utterly refuse to buy or truly except the existence of when I see it in a store.

"the reality of economic interdependence between America and China that made the Chinese "not that scary". "

Oddly enough that has made them a hell of a lot scarier to me.

So you guys prefer to be scared of the Chinese?

….ok….

What I meant was that the thought of them calling in their IOUs from our government is a lot more frightening to me than a military invasion so hypothetical it makes the sci-fi channel's monster movies look like documentaries.

I think aliens are far more likely to invade the earth than any other nation is to try to breach U.S. coastal waters in an overt act.

That kind of thinking just helps further the sinister plans of the Canadians, you know.

Gotta watch out for those Sinister Canadians!!!!!!!!!!!!

If those devious Canadians try to impose health care on me, they have another thing coming. Wolverines!

I rather liked the first movie and am looking forward to this version.

Always good for scenarios.

Well didn't Hollywood bend to pressure and change the villians from arab terrorists to neo-nazis in Sum of All Fears?

and that movie sucked too.

what did the Koreans ever do to John Milius – a bad beef bulgolgi?

bulgolgi is very good,

ok Red Dawn original was passable, but why a remake and why we have to be treated by evil occupiers? At least when the original came out the russians were the bad guys… now…

one of my best friend is the daughter of a chinese senior colonel, and the bogus unified Korean? so in a blink of an eye the people that we have helped become evil? Considering I have seen a gloster veteran weeping after a friend of mine had thanked him for his service in Korea I feel quite disgusted.

I am strongly hoping the movie will not be released and that halso the game will flop…

Seriously because they need stereotyped invaders why they cannot use imperial stormtroopers?

and even that… tuesday I saw a stormtrooper (ok someone in stormtrooper costume) collecting money for earthquake victims!

Arrigo

"However, what we will impose on you is proper freaking beer with a proper alcohol content instead of the watered down moose urine that passes for beer down there. Goddang it – it's for the good of you all!"

Uh, I thought it was y'all that was selling moose and telling us it WAS beer??? Part of the devious Canadian plot to gain more grazing lands for your growing moose.

Anyway, that rubbish stops north of the Mason-Dixon line. We southerners turn our noses up at 'beer'. That's why it's Jack all the way here in Tennessee and Alabama! 8D

But I don't mind Turkey hunting every so often…

Actually a good movie would be "Red Dawn" set in Taiwan. Drop the Wolverine angle and replace it with a couple of Taiwanese brothers who try to survive the early days of the war. Maybe have one of them in the Taiwanese army as a reservist. Make it realistic too and drop the corny heroics. And to really drive the point home have a couple of American students tossed in with their angle being survival and attempts to escape the embattled island.

Now that would be a movie worth watching.

Invaded by Koreans?

I hear the wolverine has been recast (digitally) as a rabid ferret, for fear of alienating thousands of UM alums.

To be serious – I wish this (and a lot of the other idiotic remakes Hollywood is churning out these days) would just dry up and blow away.

Doug

@Tgunner

Wouldn't that be more along the lines of a Defiance remake?

Scared of the Chinese.

What I meant was that the thought of them calling in their IOUs from our government is a lot more frightening to me than a military invasion so hypothetical it makes the sci-fi channel's monster movies look like documentaries.

Which in turn would break their own export-dependent economy. I took MBA seminars in Shanghai, and the profs there were very clear about the worry of China's growth rate dipping below 8% (which it is doing for the first time now). The Yuan revaluation would also wipe out small and medium enterprises.

Add to this the fact that China is utterly dependent on imported raw materials.

China has big internal problems, only kept in check by state security spending that matches the military. For millennia the biggest enemy the Chinese have had to fight is each other. So China as an enemy, frankly, no. Only geopolitik.

New Korea? Who knows, especially in a what-if format. The South Korean population spends so much time online now they might get brainwashed by North cyber attacks. Frankly, nobody else would have the remotest interest in invading the US.

Now the Koreans can finally stage their invasion properly …

TMP link

Dan