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Top Gun Ace04 Mar 2011 1:31 p.m. PST

It appears the Russian aircraft designers have been busy working on a new 5th Generation fighter to compete with the F-22 Raptor:

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I've dubbed it the Raptorski, and while it isn't a direct knockoff by any stretch, you can see that it appears they've taken the best of each, from the Su-27/Su-37 family, as well as the F-22 and F-23 Prototypes to come up with their latest design.

Looks to me like they've developed a winner, which has a sleeker, lower side profile, reminiscent of the F-23 design.

No photos were included with the article, but here are some, including a plan view comparison with the F-22:

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Here's some technical info:

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cloudcaptain04 Mar 2011 2:41 p.m. PST

We will have to send Clint Eastwood to steal it…

Martian Root Canal04 Mar 2011 3:08 p.m. PST

And then it will perform like a lemon and we find out that it is all Soviet-style propaganda again.

Aapsych2004 Mar 2011 4:13 p.m. PST

No, that won't work. They've learned from the last time. This model will have an access filter which won't let you take off unless you can flagrantly and fluenty curse it out in Russian. Also, you'll have to know who Stirlitz is.

skippy000104 Mar 2011 4:13 p.m. PST

Its those super advanced vaccuum tubes again! Actually ppretty soon we won't be able to tell the russian planes from ours.

Top Gun Ace04 Mar 2011 5:51 p.m. PST

Well, at least the vacuum tubes were a bit less susceptible to the EMP effects, reportedly.

Jay Arnold04 Mar 2011 7:40 p.m. PST

I've dubbed it the Raptorski …

You forgot the backwards r's.

Kaoschallenged04 Mar 2011 10:15 p.m. PST

So? In a one on one combat which do you think would be the winner? The "Raptorski" or the new Iranian stealth fighter? Robert

Klebert L Hall05 Mar 2011 8:28 a.m. PST

Even with India on board, 2013 is astronomically optimistic.
-Kle.

KNOSSOS05 Mar 2011 11:19 a.m. PST

Love those 3 way views TG! But in 1/300 she will be too big
and too small in 1/600.

Fonthill Hoser05 Mar 2011 12:45 p.m. PST

Doesn't look terribly stealthy to me. Those huge intakes are going to give radars a very nice view of the fan blades, and the engine pods hanging below the lower fuselage leave a lot of potential for radar signal bounceback.

The engine exhausts are very conventional-looking (i.e. little to no thrust-vectoring capability).

IMHO it looks like a 4th-gen fighter masquerading as a 5th-gen.

Hoser

Lion in the Stars05 Mar 2011 5:52 p.m. PST

Fielding in 2013? Full-scale development prototypes in 2013 I'd believe, but IOC in 2 years? No freaking way.

Those huge intakes are going to give radars a very nice view of the fan blades
Not necessarily. B-1B intakes have structures in them to keep radar from getting a direct view of the fan blades. Besides, if you look at the side views, there is enough space for some S-ducts between the intakes and the fans.
The engine exhausts are very conventional-looking (i.e. little to no thrust-vectoring capability).
Look at the Su-37. It has "very conventional-looking" 'turkey feathers' with some pretty impressive thrust-vectoring abilities. The US has this unfortunate fascination with 2d thrust vectoring, while the Russians have developed functional 3d thrust vectoring by adding 4 parts to conventional turkey feathers. The conventional turkey feathers attach to a floating ring positioned by 3 hydraulic cylinders.
We will have to send Clint Eastwood to steal it…
No, that won't work. They've learned from the last time. This model will have an access filter which won't let you take off unless you can flagrantly and fluenty curse it out in Russian. Also, you'll have to know who Stirlitz is.
I'm pretty sure we could find a couple Air Force pilots that can curse fluently in Russian… but why take the risks of stealing one when you could throw about $300m in gold at the Russians and buy one?

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