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Jemima Fawr13 Feb 2011 12:28 p.m. PST

The Allies won due to a massive re-casting operation, exploiting a loophole in US law to expand their armies massively, at little cost. The Germans had the superior build quality, but couldn't compete.

Old Bear13 Feb 2011 12:31 p.m. PST

You are a very naughty young man.

Martin Rapier13 Feb 2011 12:40 p.m. PST

Not much to add to the comments above, a combination of Richard Overys book about how Nazi Germany dismally failed to mobilise the industrial potential of the whole of manland Europe and half of Europena Russia plus Wavros observations on the Prussian/German genius for operations but dismal failure at logistics and the absence of any coherent strategy in 1864, 1866, 1870, 1914 or 1939.

Jemima Fawr13 Feb 2011 12:56 p.m. PST

"You are a very naughty young man."

Ooo! La, Sir! (blush, flutter)

hurrahbro13 Feb 2011 2:00 p.m. PST

He's not the messiah, He's a very….

Oh hang on, that should be in the Roman thread! ;0)

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2011 3:45 p.m. PST

The Japanese were dumb enough to bomb Pearl Harbor. The war was decided on Dec. 7, 1941. It just took the bad guys a few years to figure it out!

Tom

mekelnborg13 Feb 2011 3:46 p.m. PST

10 words starting now:

'The Allies' only thought they won
it's a yin-yang thing

SeattleGamer Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2011 5:16 p.m. PST

While I always say it was a "team effort", certainly at the top of the list must be the Russian Front, where the vast majority of Axis forces were ground up and spat out because the Reds refused to give up or give in.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2011 8:59 p.m. PST

This question was wrong from the beginning. "Why?" is not the proper question. We won because we had to. That's "why".
The proper question would have been "How?"

number413 Feb 2011 9:06 p.m. PST

"Re: George Formby ……………..

Awarded Order of Lenin for war work …… "

I knew it – a communist plot to lower troop morale and overthrow the British Empire!

Jemima Fawr13 Feb 2011 9:11 p.m. PST

Along with Gracie Fields. Thankfully, most of her high notes were audible only to dogs.

Frontovik14 Feb 2011 3:37 a.m. PST

This question was wrong from the beginning. "Why?" is not the proper question. We won because we had to. That's "why".
The proper question would have been "How?"

That's easy – because we did a better job of converting our various populations' belief in victory into an effective will to win.

Klebert L Hall14 Feb 2011 6:10 a.m. PST

Wouldn't have called the Hungarians or Rumanians tiny, given each put over 500,000 men in the field.

Meh.
They were maybe the size of Pennsylvania.
-Kle.

monongahela14 Feb 2011 8:38 a.m. PST

Because losing sucks!

BW195914 Feb 2011 10:35 a.m. PST

Logistics. we were better at then the Axis.

RockyRusso14 Feb 2011 1:02 p.m. PST

Hi

so, land area is what counts for Kle? What fools the Germans were, then.

Or maybe that was the point of that whole "leibenstrum" thing!

Or not.

R

Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP14 Feb 2011 1:02 p.m. PST

As an aside, why do people insist on claiming the Germans had superior "stuff"?
Without even bringing up Great Britain's (or the Soviets) various items of kit the Americans had better ships, hand weapons, aircraft, uniforms (going by quality and not the supposed cool factor)
artillery, logistics etc. etc. etc.
And the panthers and Tigers weren't all that good as actual vehicles. They would not have been a great boon if the Germans weren't operating on constantly collapsing lines.

Rod Robertson14 Feb 2011 1:34 p.m. PST

The Soviets won the war because they were able to control all of Eastern Europe except Turkey and Yugoslavia. They also expanded their territory into Chinese and Japanese former territories. The Western Allies didn't lose but didn't win either because they lost Poland's sovreignity and most of Eastern Europe and the Balkans to Soviet control. The U.S. and Canada did make out like bandits on war production even though Canada did forgive a great deal of British War Debt. Reconstruction was a windfall for the U.S. The Axis powers most definitely lost, but their insidious and viscious ideas lived on in more mild forms in Western governments and economic/ political circles even until today.
Rod Robertson.

NoLongerAMember14 Feb 2011 2:03 p.m. PST

Focus, the Allied strategy of focussing on the end result rather than short term gains (mostly), and keeping their eyes on the ball.

Lion in the Stars14 Feb 2011 4:36 p.m. PST

The Axis lost because they didn't have the industrial wherewithal to wage a global war, and picked a fight with the countries that *did*.

What was that quote? "[Germany?] laughed when Americans said they could produce a hundred aircraft in a month. They cried when America produced a hundred aircraft per day."

50,000 Shermans.
500 Destroyers
A hundred crusiers.

Oh, and all the liberty ships to get the war materiel from the US to where is was getting used!

That's logistics.

number414 Feb 2011 11:46 p.m. PST

"Along with Gracie Fields. Thankfully, most of her high notes were audible only to dogs"

I thought her records were used to jam the enemy radar and wireless communications?

brianmc15 Feb 2011 12:38 a.m. PST

Because Hitler was a Semi-Vegetarian

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