| Captain dEwell | 20 Jan 2011 4:14 p.m. PST |
Before Wargames Foundry revamped its webpage it carried a miscellaneous section that included a model of a 'Shark-medium' submersible craft, otherwise known as a submarine (HMS SEADRAGON), with a British Officer supping a mug of tea ("Gentleman Jim" Maguire – DA9/1). It may have been painted by Kevin Dallimore. The submarine came from a company that produced other craft (Orca-1, Eel-2, etc.) in that range. What is the name of the company, is it still in business, and does anyone have a picture of said submersible? Phew! Thank you in advance. |
| John Treadaway | 20 Jan 2011 4:17 p.m. PST |
As far as I'm aware it was by Flagship games and – although I can't find a picture at present – I'll see what I can find and, in extremis, I'll post one: becasue I'm lucky enough to own it (along with the chap drinking tea!). And yes it was painted by Kevin Dallimore. John T |
| captainquirk | 20 Jan 2011 4:19 p.m. PST |
I remember the pictures you are talking about. Think it was one of the submarines from Flagship Games' Pirates range. Believe that Scale Creep Miniatures have the rights but not sure how far they've got in bringing items back into production. |
| Captain dEwell | 20 Jan 2011 4:40 p.m. PST |
John T, thank you. A picture would be great. Did you add any flags, and the fancy 'iron work' and radio antenna around the hull? What are you doing with yours – display or gaming? And if the latter, what rules? Thanks D'Ewell |
 Extra Crispy  | 20 Jan 2011 6:06 p.m. PST |
These are indeed the old submarines from Flagship and, yes, I now have the rights to them. Even better news we are now in production with some stock available now. I was waiting until I had stock of all 4 ready to go before making an announcement here on TMP. The four subs are the Minnow, Eel, Shark and Orca. You can see pictures of most here: link The Dallimore was heavily added to with scratchbuilt components. The base models include a hull, tail fins, turret, periscope tower, gun and clear bubble portholes. We also have the Sea Monsters (Dragon, Kraken, Icthyosaur) in stock as well. The Sea Dragon now has 4 parts – head, tail and two humps. Customers in the UK please contact Mike at Black Hat Miniatures. He will be manufacturing them in the UK under license. Mark "Extra Crispy" Severin
ScaleCreep.com
FlagshipGames.com
DeepFriedHappyMice.com |
| Fergal | 20 Jan 2011 9:04 p.m. PST |
Any shots with a figure or anything giving them some scale? |
| Extra Crispy | 20 Jan 2011 11:49 p.m. PST |
Here is Dallimore's model with lots of extras he added. The figure is a 25mm British officer. link This is the Shark. The Orca is bigger. The Eeel smaller and the Minnow much smaller – perhaps 4" long. I'll post dimensions of each model over the weekend. |
| Warbeads | 21 Jan 2011 4:05 a.m. PST |
Great, MORE temptation! I just spent $91 USD (after discounts) and now I see these. Gracias, Glenn |
| CHANTYAM | 21 Jan 2011 5:04 a.m. PST |
I still have The Shark and the Orca somewhere time to add a few more and go search the depths. |
| John Treadaway | 21 Jan 2011 5:38 a.m. PST |
Captain DEwell – as Extra Crispy said, the model I have is the actual one in the shot. Kevin added some railings from the supply that I'd bought to do this link We had plans to do some ground based Martian stuff in 28mm with Cloudships in 28mm (and the Sub may have fitted into that)but that's on a very low back burner at the moment. John T |
| J Womack 94 | 21 Jan 2011 11:47 a.m. PST |
Beauty Aphid. I may need to order some stuff from Scale Creep soon. Waiting on a bit of money for toys. I'm thinking the Minnow might do well for 15mm. Any photos of it? |
| Fergal | 21 Jan 2011 12:38 p.m. PST |
Great stuff Crispy! On my shopping list. |
| Captain dEwell | 21 Jan 2011 1:57 p.m. PST |
Thanks for all the replies. John T, you are one lucky guy to own that beauty. Nice one. And with all due respect to Flagship and Scale Creep Miniatures, the additional metalware, antennas, and flags make it a truly remarkable piece of work – along with the paintwork, the weathering, decals and Gentleman Jim, of course. What rules could be used to game with a Victoriana submarine? I note that the Warlords adapted some of their own rules back in 2006. Are these available now? As aye, D'Ewell |
| Cacique Caribe | 21 Jan 2011 2:45 p.m. PST |
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| J Womack 94 | 21 Jan 2011 4:38 p.m. PST |
Another thing you could do with these, it seems to me, is flip them upside-down and make them the hull for an airship. Or even (possibly, you'd have to check the fit) take two, and join them along the flat waterline for a symmetrical (dorsal/ventral) airship. Oh, the things we can think… |
| cybrt54 | 21 Jan 2011 5:34 p.m. PST |
I converted the Orca into an Aeronef using parts from the Atlantis sub by Disney and a part from a Parroom Station Aeronef. Worked very well. link |
| Captain dEwell | 22 Jan 2011 4:52 a.m. PST |
cybrt54 Very good. I like your colour scheme. What colour(s) did you use? |
| cybrt54 | 22 Jan 2011 5:45 a.m. PST |
Thanks! I hate to say this but it's been so long ago since I painted this (6+) years I don't remember what colors I used. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. |
| CHANTYAM | 22 Jan 2011 7:42 a.m. PST |
JWOMACK94-i was thinking the same thing the two subs together could make either airship or somthing that flies the Ather.Cybrt54 great stuff I have those bits the Orca /Atlantis sub and the Parroom Satition hull that I must have had for about 7 years |
| Extra Crispy | 22 Jan 2011 8:51 a.m. PST |
Eel subs are now in stock as well… |
| Barry S | 12 Feb 2011 5:58 p.m. PST |
J Womack 94 wrote:
"I'm thinking the Minnow might do well for 15mm. Any photos of it?" Here's one I converted and am using as a 15mm sub:
link |
| Captain dEwell | 13 Feb 2011 5:09 a.m. PST |
Very, very good. Thanks for sharing. I can see this SF sea-world developing into something beautiful. Cheers, D'Ewell |
| Captain dEwell | 21 Nov 2011 5:39 p.m. PST |
What company produces a comprehensive list of fittings (rails, chains, etc) suitable for use in the additional construction/personalisation of these submersibles? Thanks in advance |
| John Treadaway | 23 Nov 2011 4:41 p.m. PST |
Captain when we did the Sky Galleons stuff salute.co.uk/cloudships.htm (which was done at pretty much the same time as the ship painted by Kevin Dallimore mentioned in the original post) we sourced naval components from a number of places, as I recall. Lift wood panels and floors were fitted from Wills Plastic Card. Railings were from EMA. Fittings, guns and crew come from by Lyzard Grin, Foundry, Copplestone and others. I think I bought the railings around that ship (which I donated to Kevin to finish the project) from a Naval Boat specialist but I'm not sure the place exists anymore (it was a shop rather than a web store) but someone must still sell the stuff! I hope that helps! Come back if there's anything else you can think of. John T |
| Captain dEwell | 23 Nov 2011 5:15 p.m. PST |
Thanks John T. I'm closing in on my own version of your Dallimore masterpiece, just need those all important bits of furniture. One more question, please. How is your submersible mounted? Has a water/sea effect been created underneath the model, and if so, how has it been done. Kind regards, D'Ewell |
| Alex Reed | 24 Nov 2011 12:08 a.m. PST |
The thing looks like it makes a great Aeronef (had to look that up). Very Victorian-ish. |
sends a sci-fi platoon to Ukraine for painting.
