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robkenny19 Jan 2011 2:49 p.m. PST

Hi all,

I've been looking for references for the livery colours and insignias of Salisbury's and Rutland's followers at the battle of Wakefield. Can anyone provide me with any help?

Many thanks,

Rob

Norman D Landings19 Jan 2011 3:04 p.m. PST

The Neville Household reenactment group use a red livery coat with a white Ragged Staff:

link

The Living History reenactor's forum lists Rutland's livery as Murrey (red-purple) & Blue.

Lord Raglan19 Jan 2011 3:18 p.m. PST

Norman has given you sound advice.

If you using 28mm miniatures, CitadelSix Custom Design do some nice decals for the various nobles from the conflict.

Email me through the editor if need any more info on all things roses.

jay13819 Jan 2011 4:01 p.m. PST

great link, finishing my first wotr 28mm archers, I know very little about this period This will help alot thanks

jdpintex19 Jan 2011 7:11 p.m. PST

Is CitadelSix still in operation? I can't find a workable link to their website.

fred12df20 Jan 2011 1:51 p.m. PST

Try citadelsix.co.uk for citadel six

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2011 2:10 p.m. PST

According to 'Standards,Badges and livery colours of the Wars of the Roses' by Pat Mcgill and Jonathan Jones:

Earl of Rutland: Badge- a peacock :Livery- Azure and Murrey

Richard Neville, Earl of Salisbury: Badges- A Griffin sejant, wings displayed Or. Eagles wings displayed Vert.
They also suggest the banner was St George in the hoist. Field Gules over Sable, a border company Gules and Sable. Motto: Ne Vile Velis

The first colour mentioned is uppermost on a banner/flag, or right on a coat.
Coats could be quartered or halved. IE the colour could be in the same order viewed front and back if quartered.

Hope this is helpful – its a booklet well worth getting!

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