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11 Jan 2011 4:26 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Jan 2011 4:25 p.m. PST

Since the minimum required supporters have been found – TMP link – the new board has been launched. Enjoy!

RavenscraftCybernetics11 Jan 2011 4:36 p.m. PST

Wont prisonrs of war find it offensive if we refer to the board as a PoW board?

aecurtis Fezian11 Jan 2011 5:19 p.m. PST

Because the 90% agin' it had no voice. Lovely.

Allen

Sparker11 Jan 2011 5:30 p.m. PST

Its been so long since my staff course! What are the Principles of War again – I recollect:

Preparation
Concentration
Selection & Maintenance of the Aim
Surprise???

DeanMoto11 Jan 2011 5:34 p.m. PST

Tactfulness and Strategery

Ron W DuBray11 Jan 2011 5:50 p.m. PST

yet another useless board I had to track down and turn off.

consectari11 Jan 2011 6:20 p.m. PST

***comments deleted because I'm just to old to start a pointless arguement and don't feel like hanging out in the dawghouse***

Steve Hazuka11 Jan 2011 7:02 p.m. PST

Found it shut it OFF.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2011 7:27 p.m. PST

Huh?

Allen57 Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2011 8:10 p.m. PST

Serious Question: What are "Principles of War"? I assume a rules set. Where do I find information about them before deciding whether to turn off the board.

John the OFM11 Jan 2011 9:29 p.m. PST

Get thar fustest with the mostest.

aecurtis Fezian11 Jan 2011 11:44 p.m. PST
Sparker12 Jan 2011 12:42 a.m. PST

Executive summary – A large scale ruleset for 19thC warfare, ACW, FPW etc.

Set at Corps level I think, with lowest unit a Bde. Played a couple of games organised by an enthusiast, and found them to be enjoyable and realistic, but not my period or scale, really…

John D Salt12 Jan 2011 3:27 a.m. PST

Sparker wrote:


Its been so long since my staff course! What are the Principles of War again I recollect:

Preparation
Concentration
Selection & Maintenance of the Aim
Surprise???

Fear
Surprise
Ruthless efficiency
Fanatical devotion to the Pope
Lovely red uniforms

All the best,

John.

Martin Rapier13 Jan 2011 7:24 a.m. PST

So, remind me what post count per week is required to keep all these new boards alive?

Cambria562213 Jan 2011 2:50 p.m. PST

The 1st Principle of War is 'Selection & maintenance of the aim', or at least it is in the British military.

Royal Marine14 Jan 2011 7:34 a.m. PST

So have we selected the aim and are we maintaining it?

What effect do we wish to employ?

Why would people come to this messgae board and tell us that they don't wish to visit it?

African or European?

Greystreak16 Jan 2011 10:03 a.m. PST

Boards like this one and 'Empire' are precisely why I have declined to renew my "Supporting" membership.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Mar 2011 12:24 p.m. PST

Oi

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Mar 2011 12:24 p.m. PST

Not

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Mar 2011 12:24 p.m. PST

Another

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Mar 2011 12:25 p.m. PST

Useless

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Mar 2011 12:25 p.m. PST

Board

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Mar 2011 12:25 p.m. PST

On

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Mar 2011 12:25 p.m. PST

TMP

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Mar 2011 12:25 p.m. PST

Why?

Grand Duke Natokina09 Mar 2011 12:09 a.m. PST

Objective is the overriding Principle of War!
So I recall from my Clausewitzian days.
Weaselhoffen.

Fred Ehlers09 Mar 2011 3:46 p.m. PST

LOGISTICS! Can't have a war without logistics.

Grand Duke Natokina09 Mar 2011 6:01 p.m. PST

@The OFM:
And hope you don't lastest with leastest.
Weaselhoffen.

Cathusac1 Supporting Member of TMP05 May 2011 3:47 p.m. PST

Although I don't play Principles of War Napoleonic, I do have the rules, and I like them. Rather I built my armies first then looked for rules, how young and naive, mine were already to big to reduce down. PoWN is a Corps-level game where a player has 3-4 Divs, of 3-base brigades. It is very stylised, and designed to be used with paper rosters. A historical Corps is much larger, and so requires a clipboard per player and at least 2 sheets at minimum readable print. So I tried designing spreadsheet rosters but never really got aware from computer support and gave up. However the method it deals with deployment is allegedly "out of fashion" so I read a few years ago in a review. It effectively makes you plan the battle before you deploy, and at least makes changing the 1 word instruction and movement arrow very difficult. I should transpose this into Age of Eagles I try use now, because I fear I will have difficulty deploying a winning strategy against certain opponents, unless i appear to be trying to gain an unfair advantage myself. Another thing I didn't handle well with PoWN was the multiplications of large numbers that happened a lot. I'm low wits with maths. However I've never got away from needing maths. Anyway Napoleonic battles are hard to replicate on wargames tables because to effect properly apparently an L shaped table is needed to allow the customary flank attack of other forces reaching the field from another direction. This was one of the keys to breaking an enemy formation, when Napoleon wasn't sitting in front of the opposition and trying to outshoot it with his cavalry. Why people who don't like or don't know these rules should care if there is a forum, I don't know. I'd be happy to meet and play with some club local to me if they did these rules needing only a refresher but sadly my county and nearest city prefer fantasy to historic by a very large proportion.

Grand Duke Natokina10 May 2011 10:56 p.m. PST

I don't do Napoleonics, so I thought the board was for the discussion of the Clausewitzian principles of war. I do prefer him to Sun Tzu, whom I think is overrated for his very generalized sayings.

r hughes20 Feb 2013 1:37 p.m. PST

Hi everyone 1st timer here can anyone please explain to a thick Englishman the army lists at the back of the rules section? i.e all the prefixs i am confused as to what is FS FM, ETC, MUCH OBLIGED.

grommet3712 Apr 2014 10:13 p.m. PST

I didn't realize this was a specific ruleset.

Is there a general board for discussing strategy, tactics, and the like?

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