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Terry3705 Dec 2010 12:14 p.m. PST

An additional question re my doing Wallmoden's Korps. Does anyone know how many regiments of infantry had in 1813-14 period. I am specifically asking about the guys who wore the British overcoats with blue collars and British shakos (see this plate of them)

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Any help is greatly appreciated,

Terry

Camcleod09 Dec 2010 10:27 a.m. PST

Terry

Have you seen this ?
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I don't the source with me, but Elting says 6000 troops were raised from three Hanseatic cities.
Most are depicted in Russian or Prussian Landwehr style uniforms.
See the various Knotel Hanseaten plates:
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I'm not sure which would be in British-style uniforms ??

von Winterfeldt09 Dec 2010 1:08 p.m. PST

why don't you visit napoleon-online.de and check the Neumann prints about Landwehr, it has a good section on Bremen.

Murvihill13 Dec 2010 1:09 p.m. PST

I recall vaguely about a guy who painted pictures of regiments that passed through his home town of Hamburg during the Napoleonic wars. If my memory hasn't failed me, this could be a Prussian infantryman kitted out in British gear who passed through Hamburg, vice a native.

Terry3713 Dec 2010 8:24 p.m. PST

Thank you everyone. I have the uniforms no problem, and am familiar with the various uniform site mentioned, and have some of the original Knotel plates in my collection. What I was looking for was how many regiments were there that wore the British overcoat uniform. I have since I posted this find some helpful info that I can go with if nothing else turns up, and that is that there was a regiment from Hamburg and a regiment from Lubeck as part of Wallmoden's Korps. So if nothing else I can just do a regiment of each and leave it at that.

Thank you again all for the help.

Terry

summerfield14 Dec 2010 3:01 a.m. PST

Dear Murvihill
Professor Suhr painted the soldiers in 1813 that passed through Hamburg.
Stephen

NigelM14 Dec 2010 3:52 a.m. PST

Terry,

There was a series of articles in the early years of First Empire Magazine which contain the information you are after IIRC. Will dig them out and report back at some point hopefully soon.

NigelM14 Dec 2010 3:10 p.m. PST

According to the article (in issues 18&19) the infantry of the Hanseatic Burgergarde was the only unit to wear this uniform and it was only about 200 strong in September 1813. It performed second line duties under Vegesack until becoming the 3rd Bttln of the Hanseatic Legion in November. In early 1814 the unit was 380 strong and it's Colonel claimed 1000 (including cavalry, sharshooters and Jagers) on 12 January and it became independent of the Legion participating in the siege of Hamburg. Infantry strength peaked at 17 officers and 744 men in 4 companies 31 May 1814. At this time the sharpshooters numbered 4/200 Jagers 3/44 cavalry 1/28 artillery 2/30 (no cannon) but these wore different uniforms. It seems that during it active service the part of the Burgergarde uniforms as per your link numbered around 600 organised into 4 companies.

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