"How difficult should it be to kill a dinosaur?" Topic

Once they close the range and/or you run out of ammo … you are in a world of hurt. However … if you are in an AFV like a Bradley or Stryker or even M1 Abrams … the Dinos could be in trouble …

The dinos fight back…

I just bought an ankylosaurus toy and have ordered a PaK 40 75mm anti tank gun from Artizan. My plan is to mount the gun and crew on the back of the dino and create a Mardersaurus. Then we'll see how these quad .50cal AA guns mounted on halftracks will cope!

Dagorlad, you might want to take a glance at the old dinoriders episodes, might give you a few ideas.

I've been working on a ruleset and universe that does something similar, most dinosaurs won't have mounted weapons though.

I never hunt Texas cottontails with anything less than a 37mm round, so why would I skimp on a dinosaur?

IMHO truly serious dino hunter never uses anything less than a 25mm anti-tank cannon:

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Just the thing for penetrating those extra-thick dino skulls…

Leland R. Erickson
Grayhawk Studios
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"According to the research I have undertaken, the stukadactyls were deployed alongside their fixed wing counterparts and would ride them to their targets, clutching onto specially designed frames on the wings. Once within striking distance of the enemy, they would break off leaving the conventional Me109 and FW190 aircraft to draw the fire of the incoming craft while they streaked in and attached magnetic mines to the wings and fuselage of the Allied bombers."

And then watched them fall off because most Allied WW2 planes were not made of steel, unless a steel/aluminium alloy? They'd be too heavy to fly.

I suppose a lot would depend on how you feel about them.

These "Gyrenes" found it very easy~

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"According to the research I have undertaken, the stukadactyls were deployed alongside their fixed wing counterparts and would ride them to their targets, clutching onto specially designed frames on the wings. Once within striking distance of the enemy, they would break off leaving the conventional Me109 and FW190 aircraft to draw the fire of the incoming craft while they streaked in and attached magnetic mines to the wings and fuselage of the Allied bombers."

"And then watched them fall off because most Allied WW2 planes were not made of steel, unless a steel/aluminium alloy? They'd be too heavy to fly."

He probably means sticky bombs, ya spoil sport, chironex :)

John T

Must be some bad@$$ sticky stuff to cope with the airflow over the skin of the plane. Assuming the creatures could catch the planes don't you think they'd be picked off while they're waiting for 5 minute binary epoxy to set?
Much more sensible to have a hooked bomb that could be slipped over the leading edge, and wouldn't come off until a way was found to lose huge amounts of airspeed real fast.

I like your thinking Chironex! Hooked mines – yeah, that's it!

Great discussion guys! This is my first look at the Pulp board. But I would say you have got it all wrong or at least way too limited.

First, if you kill the rider the "horse" won't charge. So small arms fire should be directed at the rider, with hits on the animal as no effect. ATRs aim at animal with a small chance of hitting the rider (ouch!).

Second, these kind of preditors are pack animals. So there should be an alpha "wolf" that affects the ability of these beasts to be controlled. Yes, I am actually saying a morale roll for dinosaurs!!!

Third, animals are the most agressive when they are hungry. How do you conrol a hungry dinosaur so that it attacks your enemy without eating you?

Great fun!

sky

"First, if you kill the rider the "horse" won't charge."

That's true for horses. Carnivorous mounts might be inclined to continue the charge, especially if they are hungry. Still, I suppose they might just turn and snack on their former rider.

This is the coolest TMP thread I've read in a while, but I'm biased because I like dinosaurs.

Don't have much to add on the weapons front because of my limited knowledge of big game hunting, but I admit a pet peeve of mine is game that don't give you a chance to bring down even the biggest of dinos with a single shot. It should be very difficult, with a small chance of success, and require a gamble of some kind by the player, but it's always a great thrill when you make than one-in-a-million shot your character will brag about for rest of his or her life (which will be short if he hunts dinos.)

As far as Dino intelligence, most scientists still consider them pretty dumb, at most no more intelligent than some of the dimmest of today's birds. They wouldn't have been much use as mounts or in battle. Still, if you want to hold out hope, consider crows: they're amazingly intelligent despite their small brains. And we have trained pigeons, so maybe trained dinos carrying messages across a battlefield?

Also, petrosaurs and other flying reptiles couldn't carry a person. Even the largest of pterosaurs probably weighed no more than a couple adult men, and had hallow, fragile bones.

If pterosaurs couldn't carry a rider, I guess a 37mm anti-tank cannon and ammo containers would be unlikely then. Or an additional tail gunner.

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I just came inside after painting two more dinosaurs for my Jurassic Reich collection. They are not quite finished yet, but once they're done they'll stand proudly next to my DAK Panzer IV and SdKfz 7 halftrack.