"Flames of War Engineer-Sapper Battalion" Topic

I have recently completed my Engineer-Sapper Battalion box set and put together a 1750 point force. I have been playing with this army once a week for the last 5 weeks. I am convinced that it is one of if not the most balanced armies available. I wrote some notes on how it was to paint this army as well as the tactics I use and the reasons why I think it creates a challenging match-up for all other FoW armies. What I wrote and all of the photos I took can be found here:

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I'd love to read some feedback on my force and the Sapper army in general.

Cheers!

Dan

A great post. Thanks for the tip on the children's medicine dispensers. This fixes a long standing problem. Solid painting advice. You've also spent a lot of time absorbing all the different FOW rules and options. An impressive effort that looks great!

A nice, well balanced force that highlights the many advances in Soviet doctrine during the war.

There's a specific FOW board where you might get more exposure.

Yes, I posted on the Modeling board there but I like to post here because people are friendlier. Thank you for the comments.

I was surprised when Battlefront came out with this organization, and with the boxed set and blisters. It's one of the more interesting choices. Well done!

Allen

I think tuscaloosa meant the FOW board here on TMP comradetexas . Robert

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Oh, who knew? Thanks a bunch!

"No one fails a 3+ roll three times in a row."

I have. To rub salt into the wound the last roll was a one. Oddly, next time I played the same guy when he was using a Soviet force he did the same thing!

Where is the FoW board located. I couldn't find it on the WWII Land Page.

The very top of the WWII Land Page choices.

I posted the link to it in my original post LOL.
Robert

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Bill can crosspost it, if he gets done moving in and starts policing TMP again. He had been moving anything that resembled FoW to the unnecessary FoW board in order to justify it.

Allen

Ha. I think it's a good idea to have a separate FoW board. It keeps us away from you "serious" gamers.

Great Article Thank you

Agree with you that FoW deserves its own board

Better if FoW gets its own board, and even though I don't play it, I sometimes read the postings there, just out of mild interest.

Well, it has its own board, so y'all can feel vindicated. But it's stupid. "Fire and Fury" doesn't have its own board, separate from other ACW miniature games. WH40K doesn't have its own board, spearate from other SF games. Et cetera, et cetera.

There is no reason to segregate Flames of War from other WWII games, or from other 15mm WWII games. The "serious gamers" (by which *I* mean the FoW-haters,, will track down FoW threads and spew their bile whether they are on a separate board or not.

All you do by segregating it is discourage other WWII gamers, and other 15mm WWII gamers, from participating on the board. As often as not, they are not "haters', but have something to contribute. But in having a separte board, Bill and you are sending a message that they are not welcome to participate, which is rather odd, since so many FoW players are cheap gamers like the rest of the hobby, and use every other company's toys!

Allen

Maybe the separation has something to do with the volume of posts focus on FoW.

As for "haters" I've never understood why people pick a game to hate on. Flames of War is really fun to play and they put a lot of work into their army books, both in army research and the quality and look of their products. And their models are really good. If you enjoy playing other games for whatever reason that's great but not everyone is looking for the same thing out of a game. For example, I've always been interested in WW2 but when my friends were playing the Battleground game and I saw all those charts and the games were taking 5 or 6 hours to play I knew that game wasn't for me. Anything that takes longer than two hours and I'm out.

Funny, there are lots of people on the FoW board who are GW haters. I don't understand that either. They make a great product, great miniatures, great games, they put a lot into the back story development of their game worlds. I just don't get how people who claim to love games can hate on companies that do such a good job. I guess it's like when a band you like gets popular and suddenly you don't like them any more.

Anyway, I say play your own game and don't try to crap on what others love.

Cheers!

"Maybe the separation has something to do with the volume of posts focus on FoW."

There are 2 threads on the FoW board dated 17th October, not major traffic.
This thread has 17 posts the duplicate post on the FoW board has only 3 (which are down to someone asking why you posted it twice and the response to this). The seperating out of the FoW threads has added nothing and both the FoW board and the WWII board are losing out on valuable input as a result IMHO.

The cool thing about this message board is the cross posting functionality allowing you to post the same posts in both sections and it still functions as a single thread. That is a really cool feature. Not only does the FoW site not have that function, but if your post is relevant to different message boards they frown on you posting it in more than one. As long as people cross post in both boards here I don't see the harm.

When the FoW Board was created Bill requested that posts were not crossposted to the WWII Boards.

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Would like to make clear that I have no axe to grind with FoW and I believe it should be treated like any other rule system and has a place on the WWII Discussion Board.

I've been looking at an Engineer-Sapper battalion myself, but the lists I came up with were 2000 points minimum, and better at 2500.

2 Engineer-Sapper companies, a Spetznaz scout platoon, some OT34s, and lots of artillery. And that's it.

I"m rolling a 1750 force. Two companies of Sappers, 2 platoons strong, 2 flamethrower sections, Spetsnaz, 4 gun battery of 122mm howitzers, and 5x T-34/85. I could lose the pioneer supply trucks and have enough points for two Zis-2 guns, making 6 companies.

I could get rid of the 122mm guns and go with 5 SU 57s.

Hmmm… not that I play any Flames of War right now, but that's an interesting combination, close to what I was looking at.