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Pajaro Muerto15 Oct 2010 2:12 p.m. PST

Hello friends,

I'm searching to buy a good reference on Jagdgeschwader 54's plane color schemes in the Eastern Front. I already have "Jagdgeschwader 54 "Grunherz", Osprey Aviation Elite Units", but it does not include any top views of the funky green and brown schemes, which are very particular.

Help very appreciated, as always :)
Rolando

nebeltex Inactive Member15 Oct 2010 6:38 p.m. PST

did you try a google image search of JG 54?

nebeltex Inactive Member15 Oct 2010 6:51 p.m. PST

i searched google and there were many good images. unfortunately there were many shown as "image blocked", which i have never encountered before. i did a bing image search and none were blocked. i did see some examples of the camo you mentioned.

Microbiggie15 Oct 2010 7:00 p.m. PST

Try this link to a Kagero book. There should be some pictures at the bottom of Bremer's 109 F.

I am actually painting up a pair of Raiden Bf109Fs now in that camo.

link


Looking forward to seeing your finished planes Rolando.

Mark

Pajaro Muerto15 Oct 2010 7:42 p.m. PST

Nebeltex:

I have many, many downloaded images of JG 54 planes, particularly of good Il-2 computer game skins, where I can download a screenshot showing the wings and tailplanes from above. However, while I know that the skinners are as obsessive as I am with historical accuracy, I would prefer a more trusted source :)

Microbiggie:

…And I would also love to see yours, thank you! That Bremer scheme is purty. And there lies our problem with side profiles: you can only speculate as how the paint job would have been carried over to the wings and elevators! :(

Looks like a hard scheme to paint, but it will dazzle when done. I myself am consuming quite some time painting all the amorphous spots on 8 Museum Minis M.C.202s. Four Mediterranean/North Africa, four Eastern Front. Really tiring…

Rolando

Microbiggie15 Oct 2010 8:10 p.m. PST

If you go down to the bottom there should be a top/bottom view of Bremer's 109 along with a number of line drawings.

Pajaro Muerto16 Oct 2010 1:34 a.m. PST

Yeah, I saw it a while after :D

Plus, then I realized that the same plane appears in the Jagdwaffe – Barbarossa 1941 volume! You're gonna make 2 of these… is the other one gonna be, like, number Black 11? Or do you have an extra reference?

Microbiggie16 Oct 2010 5:51 a.m. PST

Rolando, I assume that others in the staffel would partake of the camo modification, so there would be several aircraft looking like Bremer's.
I like to have 2 to 6 fighters from the same unit for my games. I tend towards researching the markings and then using a bit of 'truthiness' for the group' paint jobs.
The folks I game with generally have little or know interest in the markings and paint jobs any ways.
M

nebeltex Inactive Member16 Oct 2010 9:23 a.m. PST

i am about to do a winter mottled version of a 109F but i wanted to get the under paint scheme correct. it seems that there are no good references and the actual colors and patterns are a matter of speculation and opinion. i have heard some sound arguments for the correct shade of brown, and i also believe it is a non-standard medium dark brown.

Pajaro Muerto21 Oct 2010 10:05 a.m. PST

So… no one else?

No one…?

:_(

(attempt at a crying emoticon)

Microbiggie23 Oct 2010 5:56 p.m. PST

P M
Just played a game with my Raiden 109Fs painted up as 2/54 autumn 41
Pic of 109s:

link

The game is the first 8 or so in this set:

link

Mark

Pajaro Muerto23 Oct 2010 6:56 p.m. PST

Beautiful planes! They turned out just like the profile, too. It's a very original camouflage pattern, with grays and browns, and no greens per se. I think I'll copy your idea one day, after I get done my year-and-a-half-long to-do list.

Are the number decals from Dom's Gruppe sheet? I like them.

In the next few days, I'll post my Raiden La-5FNs at airpirates and CY6! groups, if you wanna leave some comments, my fellow Soviet modeller.

:D
Rolando

Microbiggie24 Oct 2010 4:48 p.m. PST

Rolando,

Decals are from Dom's Gruppe sheet and others.

Thanks and looking forward to seeing your La5s

Mark

Pajaro Muerto28 Nov 2010 4:57 p.m. PST

Mark, I just posted those photos, if you wanna take a look still. A month late, yessir!

Rolando

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