"Cel Vinyl paints redux" Topic

Hi guys – my attempts to find a UK (preferably London) supplier have come up zilch, so just wondering, those of you who use these, where you get them from. Thanks

Cartoon Colour Company. Yes, they spell color that way, for a Hollywood company selling animation supplies for a long time.

Straight from the source, cartooncolour.com

Best white/yellow/reds out there.
White covers black on one application!
Whites cover reds with NO bleed.
Just order from them directly…

I will never use another white ever again.

(a shout out to Pictors Studio. He turned me on to them…)

Cartoon Colour Company are in California. No UK supplier then?

According to their website they have UK prices and charge a reasonable amount for UK delivery (£3 I think) so they must have an agent in the UK.

At £6.00 GBP plus per colour (even though its a big pot) I'm reluctant to try them at present.

Its a HUGE bottle.
I don't think I will ever run out!

You will not regret ordering this paint.

They have smaller bottles – the price got me at first too! Then when you search the site you can find the 2 oz squeeze bottles for a reasonable price.

I've used up their bottles. It's not difficult when painting armies!

Wow, their site is a nightmare to navigate.

This is the website I found the UK prices on – not the Cartoon Color as I had though

£6.50 GBP for a 100ml bottle plus VAT & shipping

link

Looks like the cel-vinyl stuff would need to be ordered from across the pond.

Highly recommended. Everything Richard Disney stated is spot on.
As far as price look at it this way:
5 pots of citadel= 1 bottle of 20oz Cel Vinyl. Plus it's a better paint, IMHO.

I treied to find what it would cost in currency charges & shipping to the UK but you have to register on the site and provide your life history to get that info so I didn't bother.

If you assume that, once all charges are added, a 50ml (2oz) Cel Vinyl costs about £7.00 GBP if you buy a few it still comes out more expensive than 3 pots of Vallejo by a good margin.

Add to that the convenience of the colour range of Vallejo, saving a lot of mixing and having repeateable colours and the decision isn't quite as simple as you make it sound.

It takes me a fair while to use 3 pots of Vallejo – and I paint a lot of figures. Vallejo is easily replaced and covers well enough for me.

If I could get one or two locally and try them out I might be convinced but I can't see it being worth the risk otherwise.

Do these clean-up with water and can you mix them with other brands of acrylic like Vallejo?

They do clean up with water and mix quite well with Vallejo, GW, etc.

Can anyone else testify on the White-over-black and Red-over-black claim?

Yes; we can. We've been using Cell-Vinyl for 6 years now and will never go over to anything else. We prime black and have no trouble covering it with white or red.

For shading try their Grey#10 or Grey #7, then Grey #1 for a slightly off-white, more realistic looking color. For extreme highlights apply their white (The lower the numbers on the tints means it's closer to white. The scale goes from something like 30 to 1, with 30 having just a little bit of white added and 1 having just a tint of color to it).

For reds you can go with their middle red, then highlight vermillion. Or use their red as a base if you're looking for something really bright.

For yellow we tend to use Ochre #15 as a base, then golden yellow as a highlight.

Results can be seen here: evilbobs.biz