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Ron Ringrose11 Oct 2010 9:13 a.m. PST

Legal action has been commenced against Paul Darnell (Touching History) for defamation of character. Full details at this link:

link

Plynkes11 Oct 2010 9:20 a.m. PST

That's a log-in page you're linking to, not full details.

KenH0111 Oct 2010 9:27 a.m. PST

Details might be at the link, but you have to be a member to see them!!

Ken

IUsedToBeSomeone11 Oct 2010 9:36 a.m. PST

I assume it is in reference to this post by Paul on his blog:

link

Mike

Steve111 Oct 2010 9:37 a.m. PST

Top first post on your first day as a member grin

Prince Rupert of the Rhine11 Oct 2010 9:42 a.m. PST

Bloody hell! nice to see grown men sorting things out like mature adults, all over something that is supposed to be a fun hobby.

I assume like most things the truth is some where between the two versions being given.

Plynkes11 Oct 2010 9:57 a.m. PST

Robert Browning, eh? I'd like to hear his version of events.

I thought Robert Browning's sidekick was Elizabeth Barrett anyway, not this Ron Ringrose character.

Yuk! Yuk!

Angel Barracks11 Oct 2010 10:03 a.m. PST

Paul makes some fantastic sceney, thank you for sharing.

MajorB11 Oct 2010 10:08 a.m. PST

I think this may be the forum post in question:
link

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2010 10:11 a.m. PST

I could not find on eBay the cheap buildings mentioned in the report. I wonder if the guy got paid for his work, and he is just upset about not getting acknowledgement.

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Oct 2010 10:26 a.m. PST

Stunning looking game! Shame it's a bad ending for these gents.

nycjadie11 Oct 2010 10:33 a.m. PST

This is like one of those posts where it says "CLICK HERE TO SEE ME NAKE" and all you get is a virus.

Skeptic11 Oct 2010 10:36 a.m. PST

@RR: If you would have done the right thing in the first place, this issue would probably not have arisen…

Ron Ringrose11 Oct 2010 10:40 a.m. PST

Paul Darnell of Touching History touchinghistory.blogspot.com continues his unwarranted vendetta against me on his blogsite. Nothing new there, but recently he has simply gone too far by stating that I am a dishonest fellow to be avoided at all costs. The hypocrisy of his statement is breathtaking.

Contrary to his claims, I have not taken ‘the deceitful shortcut in repeatedly claiming to have made numerous models and large layouts' that Paul Darnell made. Incorrect credits have appeared on TMP and Wargames Society websites in some of the posts made by author/photographer Joe Dever, and these have been put right without undue delay when these errors were brought to Mr. Dever's attention. Further, Mr. Dever provided links to Paul Darnell's website, Touching History, thereby giving him additional recognition and publicity.

The implicit insinuation that I, and Mr. Robert Browning, cheated Paul Darnell out of £4,000.00 GBP (US$6250) is entirely false. His blog statement: "if you do bump into them, please ask them to send me the money" is disingenuous and defamatory by its clear implications.

The accusation that I have acted in any way dishonestly is false and defamatory and damaging to my good name and business reputation.

In light of the fact that in my previous business dealings with Paul Darnell, I had to resort to calling in the police to pursue him after he refused to supply a model I had bought from him, through my agent, I find it incredible that he has the bare-faced cheek to insinuate that he is the aggrieved party in our dealings. The police enforced a payment order against Paul Darnell, which, after some deliberate delay on his part, eventually he settled. The case record number and full details are still on file with my solicitor.

By now he will be in receipt of a letter from my solicitor.I hope he will do the decent thing and issue a full and unreserved apology without delay, and desist from ever making derogatory comments about me in the future.

Angel Barracks11 Oct 2010 10:43 a.m. PST

Incorrect credits have appeared on PMT

Where is this PMT that you refer to?

Timbo W11 Oct 2010 10:59 a.m. PST

I believe its a monthly publication.

Prince Rupert of the Rhine11 Oct 2010 11:02 a.m. PST

Where is this PMT that you refer to?

It's a place you want to avoid once a month

tinned fruit Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2010 11:03 a.m. PST

popcornpopcornbeerbeer

tobermoray11 Oct 2010 11:03 a.m. PST

---I believe its a monthly publication.---

A periodical in fact?

MajorB11 Oct 2010 11:07 a.m. PST

Oh dear.

Skeptic11 Oct 2010 11:08 a.m. PST

What was his second post? I can't see it…

Mr Elmo11 Oct 2010 11:09 a.m. PST

nice to see grown men sorting things out like mature adults

That's what I was thinking. Seems like a big hissy fit over men playing with dollies.

Andrew May111 Oct 2010 11:22 a.m. PST

Andy Warhol was right! We just love watching cars crash…

aecurtis Fezian11 Oct 2010 11:38 a.m. PST

Just the latest episode in a long-running series, Tim.

Allen

Augustus11 Oct 2010 11:54 a.m. PST

Jebus. $6,250…guess the economies aren't so bad off.

HistoryInc11 Oct 2010 12:04 p.m. PST

Must get my suit dry cleaned

Cheers Paul Darnell

HistoryInc13 Oct 2010 2:07 a.m. PST

Can't help but laugh about Mr Ringrose's recent post about legal action.

1 – I should state no Legal action has been taken by him.

2 – Myself and Joe Dever I feel are cool about things now once he pointed out in a post on this site that he is always told what to put by R. Ringrose in terms of who is credited as having made the terrain and buildings.

3 – I see from his post that Joe Dever is now being blamed for making these incorrect credited posts. (Fall Guy) He must also blame Joe for the one where he states that R.R made many of the models and terrain for my series of model books and for my website.(LOL)

3 – If you believe R.R that these posts were just a mistake by Joe Dever, then all the many posts made here and on other forums which stated that Ron Ringrose and Robert Browning made and sculptured these large layouts which I had made, it seems strange that neither of them thought to get those credits changed?

4 – As for the police action he mentions, well that's right out of left field and a court will prove that he is incorrect as the police did not enforce anything.

When there is large sums of money which I feel are owed to me, don't try and be sneaky and get the chap from Artmaster Studio to buy models for you, knowing full well that I won't sell to you. The money was only returned as the chap from Artmaster studio had used his own money to buy the model and I did not want him to be out of pocket.

5 – I say loud and clear, If you think you now have grounds to go to court, then just get on with it and don't waste my time. I likewise will claim damages from you etc etc.

Stop the waffle and lets get it on

Cheers Paul Darnel

touchinghistory.blogspot.com

ochoin deach13 Oct 2010 4:03 a.m. PST

Could we have a Spleen Emptying board?

Jubilation T Cornpone13 Oct 2010 7:57 a.m. PST

Wargaming. The friendly hobby…..

Hexxenhammer13 Oct 2010 8:09 a.m. PST

All this talk of "agents" and "solicitors"…it's so…British! How exciting!

evilmike13 Oct 2010 11:48 p.m. PST

Came expecting drama-filled vendetta replete with blood, sex, alchohol-induced rage, and more sex.

Left disappointed.

Maybe somebody can do a scenario with Paul vs Ron…in a Texas cage match….with chainsaws…..and penguins.

Woodbinedrinker14 Oct 2010 8:49 p.m. PST

By airing dirty laundry, one invites unwanted speculation:

Hamlet:
Madam, how like you this play?


Queen:
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


Hamlet Act 3, scene 2, 222–230

Oh Bugger15 Oct 2010 3:32 a.m. PST

"I had to resort to calling in the police to pursue him after he refused to supply a model"

Blues and twos! Put your foot down Jimmy. There is a guy waiting for an model!

Try that in London and they would probably Tazer you for wasting police time.

I have to conclude Ron Ringrose has shot himself in the foot. Medic!

Still no harm done and it made some of us laugh. Thank you Ron.

Old Bear15 Oct 2010 2:11 p.m. PST

I confess that looking at the title of the thread my first thoughts was it was promoting either a porn film or a teen movie. wink

HistoryInc15 Oct 2010 3:46 p.m. PST

Don't think I could manage either at my age Old Bear.

Old Bear16 Oct 2010 4:17 a.m. PST

You could probably get an actor to play your part (or indeed all of you!) grin

Raynamhab18 Oct 2010 9:22 a.m. PST

I know of one person who had paid Paul Darnell aka Touching History a fair chunk of change to have nothing delivered for a very long time and received no replies to all his emails. My understanding is that only after posting here I believe did he get his money back…

HistoryInc18 Oct 2010 12:43 p.m. PST

With due respect Raynamhab, that is not the case.

Once I was out of hospital and back in circulation a number of people were fully refunded with money and their models, including Ethan who made a post on this site which you refer too and not because he made the post.

This whole thing is sad, pathetic, call it what you will, but as long as these two large layouts and a large number of models keep getting credited to R.R and R.B I'll keep banging on about it. You can visit my site to check out some of the links to this site where posts have been made with full credits for having made and sculptured the terrain/buildings given time and again to R.R and R.B and as Joe Dever states on one of them, he's told what to put in his posts by R.R, so we are not talking casual mistake.

As for money, police and the search for whose telling the truth, then if R.Ringrose is telling it and as he states were off to court, then he or me will be proved right by the law of the land and I for one look forward to my day in court.

If there is no court case, then its up to others to judge whose blowing hot air and throwing their toys out of the prame to save face. Although I'm happy to admit that I've done a little toy throwing at the start of all this when I first became aware of these posts by Joe Dever, but you live and learn.

Cheers Paul Darnell – Touching History
touchinghistory.blogspot.com

Raynamhab18 Oct 2010 1:58 p.m. PST

Ethan? and others? okay – why not.

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