DuckanCover | 26 Sep 2010 9:01 p.m. PST |
Other than the Nagmashot, as done by Peter Pig, does anyone know if models are available, in 15mm, of any of the following Israeli APCs? Achzarit, Nagmachon, Nakpadon, Namer, or Puma Apologies for the spelling of the names, I'm fairly certain that's not the way some of them should be written, even in English. Duck |
javelin98 | 27 Sep 2010 9:28 a.m. PST |
Don't think I've seen those, specifically, but QRF/Freikorp makes Centurions and Merkavas in 15mm, so you could probably use those for the basic hull and scratchbuild the additional accessories or variations. |
jony663 | 27 Sep 2010 12:03 p.m. PST |
I have thought of doing the Achzarit as no one makes it but it looks like an expensive scratchbuild. Jon lebanon1982.blogspot.com |
DuckanCover | 27 Sep 2010 2:43 p.m. PST |
I was seriously afraid of this. I suspect I'm not the only one who thinks his modeling skills are not up to the task despite/because of the size of the model. I've seen conversions based on commercial parts kits that create a model that looks fantastic but, only in 1/35 scale. Another one for the "300 Club" wish list? Duck |
herpaderpaderp | 27 Sep 2010 4:21 p.m. PST |
I doubt it would get there |
javelin98 | 29 Sep 2010 3:22 p.m. PST |
There are 15mm T-55s out there that could form the core of your Achzarit, but it would require extensive conversion using plasticard. Might not be worth the effort, honestly. |
Lion in the Stars | 29 Sep 2010 3:52 p.m. PST |
Based on the couple pictures I've seen, I don't think it would be that hard to get close enough for the wargaming table, at least for the Achzarit. Fill the turret hole with greenstuff and fake the details on the back. The Namer I think I could knock out with a little greenstuff and plasticard on a Merk chassis, but I need some overhead photos or drawings for the hatches. The Centurion chassis vehicles (Puma AEV/APC, and Nagmashot/Nagmachon/Nakpadon) are tougher, and would really need someone to make them in kit form. I'm in for at least a pair of Pumas and 4-8 of the others. I have this horrible feeling that they'd be really hard on the molds, though. |
DuckanCover | 30 Sep 2010 4:17 a.m. PST |
I seem to be seeing a repetition of the same series of photos of a few production Namer over and over again. Given that there do not appear to be detailed "walk arounds" of any of them bar the Achzarit, I think a complete model of any others bar PPs Nagmashot is a long way off
.. The only two books available on (relatively) modern Israeli APCs are both written by the same author. At the time they were published, the Namer was only a whispered project under development. A large format five view drawing of any of them sure would help. Duck |
GeoffQRF | 30 Sep 2010 5:13 a.m. PST |
I'm just watching the level of interest for when we re-visit the arab-israeli ranges
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Lion in the Stars | 30 Sep 2010 10:25 a.m. PST |
Since the Israelis are at least discussing sharing the conversion plans, kits, or just exporting the finished product with other people (and the Russians are building a comparable T55 HAPC), it's probably going to get easier to find photos and/or sales literature for the Centurion-chassis HAPCs. Besides, they did have some notable combat deployment in the last 6 years, so there's a good chance to find unclassified internal photos of them in use if you ask nicely. |
jony663 | 30 Sep 2010 12:15 p.m. PST |
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DuckanCover | 01 Oct 2010 1:26 a.m. PST |
The Namer might be relatively easy to model, but the Nagmachon would be absolutely infernal. Great to see a model of it, but infernal to master
Duck |
GeoffQRF | 01 Oct 2010 4:53 a.m. PST |
but the Nagmachon would be absolutely infernal Slightly trickier for the main master, but no reason why it would be harder than other things we have done. Time is the main problem: hlj.com/product/LEGLF1162 And Geoff
When will that happen? Ah, time is the main problem :-) |
DuckanCover | 01 Oct 2010 5:19 a.m. PST |
"hlj.com/product/LEGLF1162" Yeah, I spent some time about two hours ago scrutinizing those. Now, if we could just get them to do the conversion kit for 15mm Centurions
Duck |
GeoffQRF | 01 Oct 2010 6:32 a.m. PST |
if I can find the time, I'll make a single conversion kit, convert one of ours and cast it
but not just yet. Got the M1A1 TUSK and Leopard 2A5, 2A6 and PSO to do first
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jony663 | 03 Oct 2010 8:54 a.m. PST |
Slightly trickier for the main master, but no reason why it would be harder than other things we have done. Time is the main problem: hlj.com/product/LEGLF1162 I can see this one being a little messy. I look forward to any additions you make to your line. Jon lebanon1982.blogspot.com |
Owen68 | 20 Oct 2010 2:19 p.m. PST |
The 1967/73 period seems better catered for I see, but when the later IDF APC/IFVs come on-line that will be great. BTW What is the most appropriate paint job for IDF miniatures, using Vallejo paints? Owen68 |
Lion in the Stars | 20 Oct 2010 3:31 p.m. PST |
Hrm
that Nagmachon doghouse would probably be easiest as a replacement 'turret' on a Centurion. Not too tough (depending on how you mold the parts). I'd expect it to be a multi-piece tower, honestly, just to save the molds a little. One upper section, one lower section with all that ERA. @Owen68: I'll have to dig out my Osprey on the Merk. Get back to you in a bit. |
jony663 | 21 Oct 2010 8:03 a.m. PST |
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Owen68 | 25 Oct 2010 1:47 p.m. PST |
I was after the most appropriate Vallejo colours for the infantry and armour for the 1967 – 1973 wars. I'm keen to put together a company of mixed Centurions and Paratroopers for 1973. Also, is this realistic for the Sinai? |
jony663 | 25 Oct 2010 2:56 p.m. PST |
I used the following page and converted the Tamiyas to Vallejo. link Vallejo Color Chart as a pdf link This will work for 73 and 82. I am not so sure on 67. I use these colors for the Sinai. Jon lebanon1982.blogspot.com |
DuckanCover | 06 Aug 2011 7:17 p.m. PST |
Apologies for the bump everyone, but still curious if any of the Israeli HAPCs referred to here have surfaced in 15mm. A brief search says no, but if anyone knows different
Duck |
DuckanCover | 11 Apr 2018 8:23 p.m. PST |
Apologies for the serious necro everyone, but still curious if any of the Israeli HAPCs referred to here have surfaced in 15mm. The usual cursory search says no, but if anyone knows different…… Duck |
Beaumap | 23 Apr 2018 5:35 a.m. PST |
I would be interested in finding out too! |
tsofian | 06 Jun 2018 5:31 p.m. PST |
Inquiring Minds want to know! |
AMitchelson | 01 Mar 2019 8:48 a.m. PST |
let me look around..if i can find some good 3d files..i have a prototype guy that can make them up |
tsofian | 02 Mar 2019 12:02 p.m. PST |
I'd be interested in them as well |
KManhart54 | 16 Feb 2020 3:30 p.m. PST |
I found two sites for the achzarit – the first site I think you need to purchase the file and then order from one the authorized printers and the second site you just order the model. I have not had a chance to order yet, I am going to order from the second site to check the model out. link link |
Beaumap | 19 May 2020 8:19 a.m. PST |
I have Butler's Achzarit. It's a very well detailed lump! |