"Star Wars Squad and Platoon TO&E's On-line?" Topic

Not sure what I've done with my SWMB rulebook, so am wondering if there are any online sources for TO&E's for the various factions, e.g. Imperials and Rebels, etc.?

I'm especially interested in the following, and have seen some references to various numbers of personnel in a squad, but have no idea if they are accurate (not that it really matters I guess, but just curious):

Sandtroopers (7 and 9 mentioned)
Stormtroopers (9 mentioned, but 10 seems like a nice round number)
Rebel Troopers like those on the blockade runner
Rebel Commandoes
Emperor's Imperial Guard (I seem to recall seeing at least six in the movies)
Sandpeople
Scouttroopers on Speeder Bikes (5/10 – 11 mentioned; 22 in a platoon?)

Thoughts?

The old West End Games Star Wars Rebel Alliance and Imperial sourcebooks had quite a bit of that sort of thing, and you can probably find them either on ebay or as pirated downloads. Not sure how canonical they are these days though, and they don't touch the prequel trilogy.

I thought that Stormtroopers were in squads of 8 while the Army was in units of 10. I'll look in my books later today.

Thanks,

John

RPGNOW I believe may have some of the olf WEG books in pdf format. And yes several contain OOB for the various Imperial and Rebel and even some planatery defence forces.

Wookieepedia probably has all the info you need….

link

I'll check my copies of the old WEG books and post back later.

Ok, here is what I got for ya.

The info can be found on pages 49-64 of the SWMB Companion. It also mentions that more info on the Imp. Army can be found in the old WEG Imperial Sourcebook.

Here are the basic breakdowns.

Rebel Alliance
As a whole does not have one cohesive organization. The member worlds are free to organize their forces in whichever way they feel is best. However, the Rebellion does maintain an organized force for those times when large-scale actions are required. These forces are Alliance High Command's SpecForces. They are the forces one usually thinks of when Rebel soldiers are mentioned. These troops are also used as marines, assigned on board and guarding ships that carry important cargo. The organization of even the SpecForces is flexible, being adaptable to different situations as required.

Division = a flexible number of Regiments which task forces are assembled from
Regiment = 4 Companies
Company = 5 Platoons
Platoon = 4 Squads
Squad = 10 soldiers (incl. Commander and 1-2 specialists)

A typical Assault Company could consist of 4 Line Platoons and a Heavy Weapons Platoon.

Now I could go into much more detail for the Rebels or if you would like I could try to scan those pages as they include markings and such. There was a dealer at GenCon and Origens selling these old books at 10 for $30, well worth a look at.

Imperial System Army
Army = 4 Corps (Line, Atrisian, Armor and Mobile)
Corps = 4-5 Battle Groups
Battle Group = 4 Regiments
Regiment = 4 Battalions
Battalion = 4 Companies (close in size to a Rebel Regiment, and varies in size depending on type)
Company = up to 4 Platoons
Platoon = Lt., Sgt. Maj., 4 Squads
Squad = 8 Soldiers
The smallest independent unit was the Platoon until after Endor at which point the Squad became the smallest independent unit.

Stormtroopers Organization
Emperor
Corp Commanders
Stormtrooper Corps = 4 Divisions
Division = 4 Brigades
Brigade = 4 Battalions (equivilant to the Imp. Army's regiment)
Battalion = 3 Companies
Company = 4 Platoons
Platoon = 4 Squads
Squad = 8 or 10 Troopers depending on mission (including Sqd. Commander and possibly some specialists)

The squad is the smallest independent unit.

Now I don't know how canonical that is. I see in the old WEG SW Sourcebook they list a Standard Battalion Garrison as having 800 Stormtroopers. However, using the SWMB Companion you would have 480 Stormtroopers max in a Trooper Battalion so there seems to be a bit of discrepancy unless there is a difference between a Trooper Battalion and an Standard Battalion Garrison.

Standard Battalion Garrison
Personnel
Stormtroopers 800
Scout Troopers 40
Speeder Bike Techs 10
Tie fighter pilots 40
Ground Crew Techs 60
Controllers 25
Sensor Techs 25
Gunners/Weapons Techs 100
Walker Crew 50
Walker Techs 80
Imp. Intel Officers 50
Base Security/detention Troops 150
Perimeter Support Troops 200
Trade Mission/Diplomats 70
Support/Services 500
Technical Personnel 200
Science 200
Medical 100
total 3000

Vehicles
Tie Fighters 40
AT-AT 10
AT-ST 10
Speeder Bikes 40
Landspeeders 60
Misc. vehicles 100
total 260

I hope this helps. I tend to use the info from the SWMB Companion for my games.

TOEs for Ewoks?

Well…you asked for it…
SWMB Imperial Entaglements had an Ewok scenario "Terror in the Trees".

The Rebs had three Ewok units each with 6 veteran Ewoks armed with 2 spears and a knife. Each unit includes a commander and one has a specialist with a blaster pistol. The Ewoks also get to place traps on the table.
The Rebels also get a unit of 10 Rebel Troopers.

Now I know that is not a full TOE but it's the best I could come up with. lol

Thanks for the detailed info RW, and everyone else.

I really appreciate it.

In A New Hope, I believe 7 Sandtroopers engaged the Millenium Falcon crew, just before they blasted out of the hanger. I think 6 troopers confronted Luke and Obi as they entered the city. Of course, that doesn't mean the correct TO&E, but does provide at least some reference on squad size.

For the Imperial Landing Craft stats, the cargo is listed as 54 Sandtroopers, in 6 squads (9 men each), plus 6 speeder bikes, 12 x E-Web guns, and other equipment.

So, you can see my confusion.

Just getting it in the ballpark will be fine for me, but I was curious to see what the official stats were, if they existed.

I wasn't aware there was a SWMB companion publication, so I'll have to check into it.

I'd be interested in the name, or e-mail address of the vendor selling the Star Wars books, if anyone knows that.

Best regards,

Rob

Yea there were three books published for SWMB.

SWMB – core book

Companion (Part of the Vehicle Starter Set, it came in a boxed set and included speeder bikes and snowspeeder figs)

Imperial Entaglements

All those numbers you give above fall close enough to the 8-10 Troopers in a squad. We all know that troops rarely opperate at full TOE strength.

I'll try to figure out who it was that had those books. I meant to pick some up myself this year. He has had them, as well as a ton of other stuff at the same price, for the past few years.

Thanks RW.

I really appreciate it.

The Star Wars Miniatures Battles Companion was an individual book expanding and clarifying Star Wars Miniatures Battles. It was later included in the Vehicle Starter Set when that boxed set came out.

So you should be able to find just the book. If I recall correctly, though, you got a good deal on all the contents by buying the boxed set. Of course that was back when they sold for retail. No telling what people may be asking for them now.

Imperial Entanglements was primarily a scenario book. There was a Rules Clarification and Upgrade in the front and some Troop Lists in the back, but the bulk of it was scenarios.