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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Sep 2010 7:40 a.m. PST

The recent publication of the Stop! Police Silurian! scenario in Ragnarok raises the question – what is your level of interest in wargaming Dr. Who?

* definitely interested
* might give it a try
* not interested
* would rather play it as an RPG
* love the TV series, don't want to game it
* Dr. Who?

tobermoray11 Sep 2010 7:43 a.m. PST

like the TV series, don't want to game it

stumer11 Sep 2010 7:47 a.m. PST

YES! And it also interests the 100's of little metal men & aliens (both painted and unpainted) that are screaming to be played with in little plastic cases on my shelf. there are several rule sets either made or adaptable for everything from casual "Beer-&-Pretzels" through skirmish and large scale confrontations to RPG games that appeal to a large audience. In fact, like like the Stargate franchise, Dr. Who is ripe for opportunity to engage in any era of Historical, Fantasy, or SF setting with crossovers for other franchises possible.

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mrwigglesworth11 Sep 2010 7:56 a.m. PST

definitely interested

Mirosav11 Sep 2010 8:02 a.m. PST

Definitely interested. The DWMG rules give a great game.

miscmini Fezian11 Sep 2010 8:09 a.m. PST

no

aecurtis Fezian11 Sep 2010 8:27 a.m. PST

Only because there's the potential to kill Rose Tyler and Donna Noble and Amy Pond over and over and over again. Especially Rose Tyler, over and over and over, in especially horrible ways.

Allen

SgtPain11 Sep 2010 8:39 a.m. PST

love the TV series, don't want to game it.

Silurian11 Sep 2010 8:48 a.m. PST

Yes, definitely. Dalek invasion wargames mostly for me. Oh, and some Silurians!

jlstuht11 Sep 2010 8:56 a.m. PST

Love the TV series but have yet to game it. The DWMG rules look like they might be fun to try.

elcid109911 Sep 2010 9:10 a.m. PST

Love the series (all Doctors) and would love to see a decent set of miniatures and gaming rules.

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Sep 2010 9:21 a.m. PST

Yep, I'd game it (and have).

highlandcatfrog11 Sep 2010 9:34 a.m. PST

No.

Top Gun Ace11 Sep 2010 9:43 a.m. PST

Nyet…..

DeanMoto11 Sep 2010 9:44 a.m. PST

Not really; would play it if someone hosted it. Dean

Karnophage11 Sep 2010 9:52 a.m. PST

I have no interest in a Dr. Who wargame. The main reason it would not work. The Doctor is the key to beating any force and he does it without any apparent weapons. Now different races against each other unless they are in space ships it seems like some forces just toast everything else. The Daleks are pretty impossible to kill by most weapons and they have their one shot one kill beam. The new Cybermen are pretty much wimps and the rest of the universe seem to be in between. It really does not seem like to much fun to me.

Rassilon11 Sep 2010 10:01 a.m. PST

Definitely interested, unfortunately the miniatures aren't cheap (Black Tree), or not readily available.

auton111 Sep 2010 10:05 a.m. PST

Yes and have done

Steve Hazuka11 Sep 2010 10:13 a.m. PST

The only movement rate you'd need for Dr Who is running. He doesn't seem to have any other speed.

Space Monkey11 Sep 2010 10:38 a.m. PST

No, but I'd like a nice line of dr. Who minis… Especially Daleks… In 28mm

SheriffLee11 Sep 2010 10:42 a.m. PST

I have loved Dr Who since the 80's.
The South of the River Gang game Dr Who using the Piniacle Shodow Rules. Daleks are lousy shots but are very tough.
I used the Daleks in our last game. I fought off two other fractions, one of whom was Cybermen. Of course they came at my Daleks piece meal and I destoryed them one at time.

Militia Pete11 Sep 2010 10:45 a.m. PST

Only if Rose Tyler can host it!

Stealth100011 Sep 2010 10:56 a.m. PST

definitely interested
I have two Dr's and the master and 20 daleks.

Captain Apathy11 Sep 2010 11:00 a.m. PST

definitely interested

I have play both the Black Tree Invasion Earth and Crooked Dice DW Miniature rules. Fun genre to play.

Cosmic Reset11 Sep 2010 11:11 a.m. PST

No.

napthyme11 Sep 2010 11:14 a.m. PST

yes

Fat Wally11 Sep 2010 11:47 a.m. PST

Nope. Can't stand it. Never have, probably never will.

Lentulus11 Sep 2010 11:53 a.m. PST

Would not turn down a game, not going to collect it.

The Dread Pirate GeorgeD11 Sep 2010 12:15 p.m. PST

Definitely interested.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2010 12:16 p.m. PST

Not in the slightest. I never saw a single show, and don't think I missed anything.

Lowtardog11 Sep 2010 12:38 p.m. PST

Nope

28mmMan11 Sep 2010 12:52 p.m. PST

"Not in the slightest. I never saw a single show, and don't think I missed anything."

hmmm, rather than the easy "well that explains a lot :)" I will instead present this query…

Surely you, John, recognize that this whole Dr Who thing has a world wide following and is the longest running science fiction series of all time…so by adding the extra input of "I never saw a single show" and "don't think I missed anything", is unnecessary?

I realize that it is a general rule of thumb that you make these sort of salt in the dessert comments as a matter of you being you…but surely even you must be tiring of these flag waving efforts?

*****

In fact I would offer that yes you are missing something.

The various stages of the Dr Who series have gone from grainy black and white TV to the full color digital special effects of today. A whole lifetime of character development and support to the show.

That sort of writer, director, and fan loyalty does not come cheaply…it comes from extensive investment.

That you have somehow managed to NEVER have seen a single episode is a bit beyond me…Dr Who has been on TV in some form or another since 1963…before I was born…but it is what it is.

I could see having seen some of the shows and not liking them…but to not see any of them…there are crotchety old men versions, young energetic versions, and everything in between…it would seem to be a realistic expectation that one of the actors/characters throughout the last 47 odd years would fit your personal puzzle.

But it is what it is…the show has been good and bad, cheesy effects and great effects, weird silly aliens and great characters…it deserves more than to be ignored, IMO.

You should watch them all, from start to finish…start with the grainy black and white ones…and work your way through. Somehow I think at the end, you would have a different opinion…if you watched a handful of episodes, at least at that point you could be in a position to have an opinion.

Shame, this is a case of you not knowing what you are missing.

***********************************************************

…and, yes I would be interested…RPG makes more sense to me.

Dave Knight11 Sep 2010 1:07 p.m. PST

no

abelp0111 Sep 2010 1:22 p.m. PST

Definitely interested! I just wish BTD would be dependable enough to buy some DH figures off of them!

Dropzonetoe Fezian11 Sep 2010 1:34 p.m. PST

* love the TV series, don't want to game it

Well what would be the point of gaming it… Dr Who wins every game and then the Daleks come back.

Sterling Moose11 Sep 2010 1:41 p.m. PST

Maybe.

Flat Beer and Cold Pizza11 Sep 2010 1:46 p.m. PST

Pass.

lugal hdan11 Sep 2010 1:47 p.m. PST

Only because there's the potential to SHAG Rose Tyler and Donna Noble and Amy Pond over and over and over again. Especially Rose Tyler, over and over and over, in especially horrible ways.

Allen

There you go Allen, fixed it for you. :)

I don't like gaming in settings where there is one "Star" who drives the whole setting. so no.

Cufflink11 Sep 2010 2:06 p.m. PST

I'm waiting for a range of creatures from the new era. A re-fight of the Sontarans vs UNIT battle would be fun.

The Doctor isn't the typical sci-fi hero (macho meathead with a raygun), so I reckon a role playing game might be better for playing as a non-violent Time Lord and his companions.

alien BLOODY HELL surfer11 Sep 2010 2:07 p.m. PST

Not the biggest fan, would use Daleks in other games -such as Matakishi's Alien Invasion rules. Might get some Cybermen if there are ever some nice models. Most stuff available from Dr Who 'baddie' wise leaves me cold (which given how I buy stuff on a whim is probably a good thing)

Jimmy da Purple11 Sep 2010 2:13 p.m. PST

I have Tom Baker, Sarah Jane Smith (my favorite), the Brigadier, and some UNIT in 15mm. I would love to use them with 15mm aliens and such, but not sure if it is possible to capture the magic of the Doctor in a wargame. Someday I may try.

shelldrake11 Sep 2010 2:40 p.m. PST

Yes – I have some rules, and a few figures (but not enough to play a game with)… as was previously mentioned, if BTD was reliable…

Calico Bill11 Sep 2010 2:42 p.m. PST

Didn't like the show post Tom Barker. Wouldn't want to game it.

erraticassassin11 Sep 2010 2:42 p.m. PST

Some thoughts…

1) OMG TEH DALEKZ R INDESTRUCKIBLE.

This would make for unbalanced games, no? So treat the TV series as fluff; legends exaggerated in the re-telling. Yes, Daleks should be very dangerous, particularly in large numbers, but tone them down a bit. Likewise, the usual hyperbole about every new villain being the deadliest, most dangerous whatever in the Universe can be taken with a pinch of salt.

Obvious stuff, but worth stating, I think…

2) WEEPING ANGELS.

Hostiles with built-in turn-based behaviour. Could make for very interesting games. Watch your lines-of-sight and pray that your characters don't fail their blink-test.

3) BUT THE DOCTOR NEVER USES A GUN.

No he doesn't, which could again be very interesting. Stick him in a warzone, surrounded by hostiles, with a bodyguard of some description. Bad guys must kill the Doctor to win; good guys must get him alive to some objective, in order to reverse the polarity of the neutron flow and foil the villains.

Try combining 2 & 3, perhaps?

4) HA!

I've mentioned this before, but GZG's 15mm Kra'Vak could make pretty neat non-Sontarans.


EDIT: To answer the question, um, yes. Just a bit. :)

28mmMan11 Sep 2010 3:39 p.m. PST

The Orphans of Gallifrey

This would allow for the players to be more than just friends of the Dr.; the players get the option to be avatars or keepers of the flame, partial Time Lord.

The energy of the Time Lords (when they are destroyed) spread out into the vastness of Time and Space…most of these energy particulates gravitate towards heavy gravity sources such as black holes, with a few making it to populated worlds.

So the players are seeking out more of the same…as the Time Lord energy particles are also being sought by various aliens for nefarious purposes.

Basically two hearts, limited regeneration (say 3 times), and partial knowledge of the Time Lord in question (the particle), and a sonic screwdriver :)

Aliens should be an option.

Humans as characters should gain those ever special elements that most time traveling humans have…curiosity (finding themselves in tight spots), humanity (a quality of caring for others that is apparently rare among the millions of alien types), and supreme luck.

************

Sounds like fun.

************

Amen to the Daleks being near indestructible…a measure of extreme toughness, yes, but not all and everything.

rddfxx11 Sep 2010 4:00 p.m. PST

No

pahoota11 Sep 2010 4:10 p.m. PST

Seems like it would be a hoot as an RPG, but not as a wargame. Still, the free DW Miniatures Game rules are very interesting, with the Doctor and other brainy types able to invent devices on the spot to stop the opponent.

Dropship Horizon11 Sep 2010 4:15 p.m. PST

Watch your lines-of-sight and pray that your characters don't fail their blink-test.

Like it!

Happy to game the old style UNIT under the Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart vs alien nasties.

Cheers
Mark

Barks111 Sep 2010 4:53 p.m. PST

I'd game it.

Timbo W11 Sep 2010 5:15 p.m. PST

Does anyone do them in 15mm?

I've got a bunch of old traveller and lazerburn figures somewhere that could do with a run out. Daleks sound like just the ticket.

I think you could set game within the Dr Who universe but avoid having the Dr turn up -after all he's not wargamey – no gun and you can't shoot him (well only 12 times). UNIT v dinosaurs or giant robots – what's not to like?

I must say you'd have to play fast-and-loose otherwise they become too much of a superweapon. But its sci-fi – if you can't make it up why bother starting?

Star Wars Imperial Stormtroopers v Daleks v Cybermen v SG1 v Klingons v Cylons v Flash Gordon – now you're talking.

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