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11 Sep 2010 6:37 a.m. PST
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  • Changed title from "Thirty Years War Siege Curiousity" to "Thirty Years War Siege Curiosity"

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Aladdin10 Sep 2010 9:13 p.m. PST

I was wandering through the Wikipedia.org article on the Thirty Years War today and noticed something peculiar in a painting of Cardinal Richelieu at the siege of La Rochelle (link follows). There are a number of vertical(ish) wooden beams in the background- apparantly in water. I am curious what they are- things that sprang to mind included anti-ship defenses, some kind of simple trebuchets, but neither purpose seems served by these shapes. Any ideas?

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Sergio11 Sep 2010 1:46 a.m. PST

In my opinion this is a part of the seawall that French engineers built blocking the seaward access to La Rochelle.

ravachol11 Sep 2010 7:50 a.m. PST

Was to say :

I do believe they are anti-ship sea defense aswell , if you take a look at the hudge ship at sea in the background it does look like it would help avoiding one of those making an easy landing assault .

So if not part of the seawall itself it may be the embankment defense against counter-attacks from the beseiged garison or any possible sea-going relief force .

Jacques Callot " gigantic sketche" of the besiegers positions may offer more insight on the matter if you get to study it close enough .

then searching for the said sketches , I found out the french title of both this painting and others related .

So it's definitly the seawall nick-named Richelieu seawall !

english wiki looks like a better place to look then the US one :

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some additional info found in the french wiki :
Jean Thiriot (1590-1649) was the other architect alongside Clément Metézeau (1581–1652) .
Métézeau worked on the north bank , while Thiriot worked on the "midi" bank ( southern one ) .

They were under the care of Marechal de Bassompierre , with marechal de Schomberg supervising Thiriot effort directly .

the seawall itself was "broken" by the center : it had an opening in the middle leaving a 200 meters long gap protected by numerous warships .

The seawall was 1500 meters long , 16 meter large at the base and 8 meter large at top , 20 meter high and armed with cannons turn toward seaside to prevent supplies from sea to reach the city .

The story of the siege is full of many apptents to breack through the said seawall and played a major part in the unconditional surender of la rochelle starved city .

Sergio11 Sep 2010 8:32 a.m. PST

The original seawall was built by the italian engineer Pompeo Targone but during the winter the structure failed so Metézeau built it again.

Aladdin11 Sep 2010 5:17 p.m. PST

All, thank you very much for the information- very informative, and an interesting aspect of the siege I had no idea about previously.

ravachol30 Sep 2010 11:06 a.m. PST

a while ago I did found this pic in a book dating from the end of the siege . It had the victory parade for the return of louis XIII in paris after the siege as main focus . Still cannot remember or find back the notes containing the book name and the online library it came from but here is the pic I downloaded showing Louis XIII , richelieu and the court in front of the siege :

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