"louisiana state flag" Topic

Is there any hard evidence of Louisiana units carrying early state flags on the battlefield.
I mean "pelican flag"
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and "1861 flag"
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Do we know which regiments carried those flags and when and where ?

Any info appreciated.

As a Tiger Rifle reenactor we carry both the Stars and Bars, and the Pelican Flag. I'm not the one one who did the research, but I'm sure this was thoroughly looked in to when the unit first came in to being 28 years ago. We are outfitted in the 1861 issue uniform.

I'm on the road and don't have my sources. But I distinctly remember reading that there was a Louisana regiment at Shiloh carrying the Pelican flag. I'm pretty sure a union soldier made an observation about it in what he wrote about the battle.

Hey it's a game ,if you want your troops to carry a pelican flag go ahead. If anyone has the nerve to question you ask them to show you the source that shows that you are wrong. State flags and militias were a lot older than the new
" Confederate States"

1861 and 1862 were the main times when regiments or Brigades used State flags. In Alabama there is little eveidence of the ALabamaba flag being used outside the State after 1862.

In regards to Loiusiana, I thought I read a acedemic journal report on the State Flags being carried at several Louisiana battles. But I cannot cite the source anymore since I am not at college.

Mapleleaf,

Asking someone to provide evidence of a negative is kind of difficult. While you can find a source that tells you that Louisiana DID use the Pelican on its regimental flags, but you're unlikely to find one that specifically says they did not.

Last time somebody challenged me to prrove something didnt exist in a game, I told him to prove that my French skirmishers where not armed with M-14s.

You could actualy do it by finding the date of the original issue of the weapons, but he got the poiint.

However, on something like a flag, I would have no problem with it if you showed up at my table with them.

Owen

Since for much of the war Brigades tened to be from the same state. I find era Sate Flags as good Brigade Command markers.

badger22

M-14? Good choice. I was the worse shot in the corps but even I could hit what I aimed at with an M-14.

The single best online site for Confederate flags is confederate-flags.org
Check out LOUISIANA in the STATE FLAGS section, but also go through the FLAGS OF THE CONFEDERATE ARMED FORCES section for an excellent primer on the flags carried by various Confederate units.

Last time somebody challenged me to prrove something didnt exist in a game, I told him to prove that my French skirmishers where not armed with M-14s.

You could actualy do it by finding the date of the original issue of the weapons, but he got the poiint.

However, on something like a flag, I would have no problem with it if you showed up at my table with them.

"French Skirmishers"? For which war? Vietnam in the 1950s? Algeria in the early 1960s? They might have actually had them then! I'll assume you meant Napoleonic French…

But that M-14 analogy doesn't work too well when applied to this particular case, since the pelican COULD have been on their flags, and there is a possibility that the Brown Pelican was on there, since it was associated with the state from earlier times.

A better example would be trying to prove that a particular regiment WASN'T armed with Model 1842 Springfields (a common weapon) in 1861. The same level of proof is needed to either prove or disprove that statement.

Now, if someone said that would they might have used a picture of the New Orleans Superdome on their flag, that would be a different story!