"ECW sieged manor houses" Topic

I am seeking a ECW manor house that was seiged and is rather small, I want it for 28mm and it has to fit on a 2 x 2 foot board including walls but not all defences. I have a few in mind but very little detail aside from google images, what I am after is floor plans or seige plans, anybody have something like this?

Wingfield manor
Grafton Regis
Wiverton hall

cheers
matt
Highnam house

Stokesay Castle (Shropshire?), England, could probably do. I think the owners produce a small guide book with a floor plan – or perhaps they did did several years ago. Good luck, sounds interesting.

I found a floor plan of Stokesay and some grotty photos and built a model of it in high school in 1968! I have lots of pictures of the place from visiting; not sure if we picked up a booklet or not. Let me see what's on line. That's a very good candidate. The Perry twins built a model of it years ago, too.

Allen

Here you go:

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You also need the church just across from the north tower; an artillery duel was conducted with very light guns between the two towers.

Good photo here on p.482, showing the churchyard in the lower right:

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This shows the church briefly at the 1:00 mark and again at 2:55, and has good interior shots:

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This may be of use, too:

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With all that, you ought to be able to do a better job than I did when I was thirteen!

Allen

Hi Bluewillow,

If you need some inspiration, I remembered at last year's West Midland Military Show (2009) the Shrewsbury group came second in the Best Game & Best Terrain award with this display:

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From the numerous visits to the site I can say that the model looks remarkably accurate.

Regards,
Matt

Cracking model!

As an aside, when the missus and I went there about fifteen years ago, it was in the company of Phil and Sue Barker of WRG (WRG Ancients, DBA, DBM, etc.). Phil proudly pointed out that he went to grammar school at Stokesay. Bit of trivia for you.

Allen

Excellent photos and links, guys, it works for me. I may have to do beseiging of my own. Now, where are my ECW armies? Thanks.

You could try Ercall House, again in Shropshire. Garrisoned for The King and besieged three times. The basic layout was a quadrangular brick house surrounded by large earth rampart with St. Michaels ? church just outside to the south east ( also garrisoned ).The first siege seems to have taken the form of a leaguer i.e. a loose cordon to interfere with the activities of the garrison. During the second siege a large work was built by the Parliamentarian forces outside the main gate, whether this gate was a permanent masonry structure or built as part of the earthworks is open to conjecture. This siege was raised by Sr Wm. Vaughan with much loss of life among the besiegers. The third siege in 1646 lasted 9 days and was the first attempt to use any large artillery, quickly leading to the surrender of the garrison.
Or you could wargame the siege of Stokesay Castle which was ended with a couple of cannon shot from Norton Camp Hill a half mile away.
More detail of Ercall House is available on Channel 4's Time Team website which has a few aerial photos etc.
Hope this provides some food for thought.

Try Wythenshawe Hall from Manchester. The ECW bits of that look quite small….

Perhaps a quick Google might turn up floor plans – if not I'm off to a wedding there in November….

wow thanks Allen and Matt,

lots of inspiration there, I remeber also a article in a wargames Illustrated or military modelling also, I will now have a dig around

cheers
matt

This is worth a look.

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Sublime. Empress Miniatures, if you are not intending to market this then please contact Grand Manner and see if they will. This surely will sell.

excellent model, I have found something in a book that will suit I think for my project. started sketching today will post on my blog tommorrow.

cheers
matt