| Tango01 | 24 Jul 2010 5:11 p.m. PST |
Please, those armoured vehicles (tanks?) had been in action in Italy or France post 1944 at WW2?. link Thanks in advance for your help. Amicalement
Armand |
| D A THB | 24 Jul 2010 5:33 p.m. PST |
No only used Early in Europe or the Desert . I can't think of any other theatres they were used in. |
| JCBJCB | 24 Jul 2010 6:41 p.m. PST |
Less than 2 seconds with a Google search. link |
 John the OFM  | 24 Jul 2010 7:25 p.m. PST |
They were obsolete in 1938…
Which did not stop them from being used. |
| kustenjaeger | 25 Jul 2010 2:09 a.m. PST |
Greetings Operational use included:
– France 1940
– Western desert 1940-41
– Italian East Africa 1940-41
– Greece 1941
– Crete 1941
Other possible use included
– Malta (against projected landings)
– British home defence Regards Edward |
| Cyclops | 25 Jul 2010 6:03 a.m. PST |
Off topic I suppose, but there's one in Latrun Tank Museum in Israel (or there was in '97 when I was there). It's tiny but cool.
link
Looks like it's got a 20mm in place of the 15mm. |
aecurtis  | 25 Jul 2010 6:11 a.m. PST |
Yep, there's your post-1944 use. Allen |
| ashill | 25 Jul 2010 6:12 a.m. PST |
A well known observation about these tanks made after the Dunkirk evacuation(sorry don't know the source)is that the best thing about them was that they had to be abandoned. |
| Martin Rapier | 25 Jul 2010 6:53 a.m. PST |
One German infantry division (can't recall which one now) mounted 105mm howitzers on captured Vickers VI chassis and used them as SP guns on the Eastern Front. |
| Tango01 | 25 Jul 2010 12:01 p.m. PST |
Interesting data Mr. Rapier.
And they could advance with that heavy howitzer?.
They change the engine too? Yust curious. Amicalement
Armand |
| Kaoschallenged | 25 Jul 2010 12:32 p.m. PST |
IIRC some were used by the Egyptians in 1948-49. In regards from what I have read to the converted Mk VI Light Tanks they were converted by Colonel Alfred Becker of the 15. Battery of the Artillery Regiment 227 in France.12 captured tanks were armed with 105 mm guns and 6 with 150mm guns. Though I'm sure how many were actually the Mk VI Light Tanks. Though I believe all were.When the 227th Inf Division was transferred to the Easter Front in 41 they went with it. Robert |
| Kaoschallenged | 25 Jul 2010 2:19 p.m. PST |
Also known as 105cm LeFh 19 (Sf) auf Le Panzer Mk IV 736 (e)? Original Designation: Light Tank Mk.IV
Original Role: light tank
German Designation: Leichter Panzerkampfwagen Mk.IV 734(e)
Conversions/Role/Use:combat/reconnaissance/training Original Designation: Light Tank Mk.VIB
Original Role: light tank
German Designation: Leichter Panzerkampfwagen Mk.VIB 735(e)
Conversions/Role/Use: combat/reconnaissance/policing/training
Note: Some were converted to 105mm light howitzer carriers designated as 10.5cm leFH 16 auf Geschutzwagen Mk.VI(e), ammunition carriers designated as Munitionspanzer auf Fahrgestell Mk.VI(e) and reconnaissance tanks designated as Beobachtungspanzer auf Fahrgestell Mk.VI(e). Original Designation: Light Tank Mk.VIC
Original Role: light tank
German Designation: Leichter Panzerkampfwagen Mk.VIC 736(e)
Conversions/Role/Use: combat/reconnaissance/policing/training
Note: Some were converted to 105mm light howitzer carriers designated as 10.5cm leFH 16 auf Geschutzwagen Mk.VI(e), ammunition carriers designated as Munitionspanzer auf Fahrgestell Mk.VI(e) and reconnaissance tanks designated as Beobachtungspanzer auf Fahrgestell Mk.VI(e). Robert |
| Martin Rapier | 26 Jul 2010 6:18 a.m. PST |
LOL. I knew I should never have mentioned the SP 105s. |
| WarHighlander | 26 Jul 2010 9:19 a.m. PST |
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| Griefbringer | 26 Jul 2010 10:05 a.m. PST |
That looks like quite a load for the chassis. Makes me wonder what happens when the gun is actually fired! |
| WarHighlander | 26 Jul 2010 2:25 p.m. PST |
Probably a recoil similar to the 15cm sIG33B auf Panzer I. |
| 1968billsfan | 29 Jul 2010 5:25 a.m. PST |
There were about 11,000 "sons of Vickers 6 ton" built and used by the Soviets: link As the T-26 was one of the two main medium tanks built by the Soviets in the 1930's and most mounted a 45mm gun. |
| Murvihill | 29 Jul 2010 9:19 a.m. PST |
Umm, the Vickers 6 ton isn't the same as the Vickers Mk VI. Two entirely different beasts… |
| WarHighlander | 29 Jul 2010 7:09 p.m. PST |
Epic fail? Reminds me of an old thread on the Flames of War forum when we were talking about T-70s, and some guy was like "Don't you mean the T-72? Did the Russians have those in World War II?" |
| Kaoschallenged | 29 Jul 2010 7:26 p.m. PST |
For those who might be confused, Vickers Mk VI Light Tank
picture Vickers 6 Ton Light Tank
picture Robert |
| jony663 | 30 Jul 2010 4:10 a.m. PST |
The Mk VI was used by Egypt against Israel. I know at least three were at Yad Mordechai. |
| Jemima Fawr | 30 Jul 2010 12:05 p.m. PST |
Mk IV and Mk VI Lights were also used by 100th Independent Squadron RAC in Malaya and Singapore during the Japanese invasion of 1941/42, but nobody seems to know if they saw any action. |
| DJButtonup | 30 Jul 2010 2:43 p.m. PST |
While we all dismiss this little tank I have to say that playing in a long, ongoing France '40 campaign as a Brit I'm well pleased to have any I can get, they're fast(er than infantry) mount a decent MG and have smoke cans. What more could a desperate Cavalry Lt. want? That being said, I've chewed through as many as I can get, they sure do brew up quick against PzIIIs… |
