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28mmMan11 Jul 2010 8:26 a.m. PST

…your image of a troll, after seeing the miniature you went with that instead because it is great.

Now this is a fun one for me…I have always liked the idea of trolls…RPG…skirmish…and big battles…and of course in media (TV/movies/books)

There are so many different visions, with many crossing the lines of troll-ogre-giant. Many trolls of myth and legend flow between these three titles with ease. And I would say that it is a matter of personal opinion as well as game system defining the look of a said troll.

So for a basic filter, to move this thread along :) let use say that giants are right out…giants are humanoids that are basically really big men…the barrier between ogre and troll is far shorter IMO, so if there is an ogre miniature that says "troll" for you and your needs/gaming then include it :)

There you go…no giants, but any other ogre/troll miniature that says "troll" for your vision…which miniature currently available is best?

x42brown11 Jul 2010 8:50 a.m. PST

I don't really think that any modern troll miniatures do it for me like link I don't know the make but if any modern ones are close to that look they would get my vote.

x42

The Gray Ghost11 Jul 2010 9:41 a.m. PST

For Me, Ral Partha had the best ideas for trolls ever, some are still on the market.

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2010 9:51 a.m. PST

Citadel Fantasy Tribes Trolls

link

Hevy Phyzx11 Jul 2010 10:00 a.m. PST

First I would recommend many of the Reaper Mini Trolls. I have used them extensively in my D&D campaigns and they are very distinct from their Ogres and Giants. Many having the more traditional (from various European mythological backgrounds) look of very long arms, ape/gorilla like posture, long pointy or large bulbous noses, and the obligatory warty hide.

Reaper does have a "Not" LotR Cave Troll, but that borders more on huge Ogre in my visions.

I would also recommend a few of the Privateer Press trolls from their HORDES game, specifically the Dire Trolls of the Trollblood faction. There aren't very many "tradtional" trolls in this line though, since the Iron Kingdomstm mythos makes the Trolls a very sophisticated society. BUT…the Dire Trolls are particularly nice looking (even if they do look like VOR Growlers grin).

Andy Welkley
"Your Phrendlee Hevy Phyzx T-chrr"

Paintbeast11 Jul 2010 10:08 a.m. PST

I'd echo what Hevy Phyzx said. I really enjoy the reaper Trolls (the Mother troll with infant is a great touch).

Delthos11 Jul 2010 10:20 a.m. PST

I don't have one favorite. It depends on what setting I'm playing in for me. That being said I really hate the WotC D&D CMG Trolls. They are just really goofy looking. I really like Paizo/Reaper's interpretation of the classic D&D troll.

link

Here's a color picture of the Troll on the cover of Paizo's Bestiary.

link

CPBelt11 Jul 2010 10:35 a.m. PST

Cavalcade sells a really neat looking 50mm troll in resin:

link

Battle Works Studios11 Jul 2010 10:43 a.m. PST

Having been spoiled by D&D, I have to go with the classic MM1 look. Ral Partha's AD&D figs are long gone but Otherworld still has the look covered:

link

CmdrKiley11 Jul 2010 11:58 a.m. PST

As long as they don't look like this:

picture

and no it's not a Zardoz link.

Dravi7411 Jul 2010 1:17 p.m. PST

I quite like the Heresy Dungeon troll

link

Something like that could definitely be living under a bridge.

28mmMan11 Jul 2010 1:36 p.m. PST

"LotR Cave Troll, but that borders more on huge Ogre in my visions"

I am with you on that one, but huge ogre is good too!

"Having been spoiled by D&D, I have to go with the classic MM1 look. Ral Partha's AD&D figs are long gone but Otherworld still has the look covered"

I am a fan of Otherworlds work, the troll was always a bit of a withered old hag for me but Paul Muller's Gnolls on the same site are just magic and the paint job is great.

As mentioned earlier, the PP Hordes Trollkin big guys have a savage "monster" troll look to be sure. If I were putting together a working unit, with weapons and intelligence (a quality not usually assigned to trolls :) I would use the Trollkin, which to be honest are GREAT ogres for me, but I could go either way link

Love this Angus image, but it says more ogre (again a good thing) to me picture

I guess I think of trolls as being a bit misshapen with long arms, gaunt look, and long fingers like these link picture and as much as I tend to the throwing rocks side of the fence, GW does have some good trolls IMO…or I should say they did, those classic early 90's trolls, can't seem to find them, but the new ones have a few good choices link link

Warbeads11 Jul 2010 4:56 p.m. PST

Der Kriegspieler Trolls/Ogres – see link
for images.

Gracias,

Glenn

Daffy Doug11 Jul 2010 6:54 p.m. PST

@Doc X: Crap! All these years later, and in my memory I had made my troll clan as Ral Partha, and instead they're Citadel. Dammed leaky brain. I have them all, btw….

28mmMan11 Jul 2010 8:21 p.m. PST

Warbeads…whew, that was a blast from the past, when miniatures were flat cast and tiny. This guy claims to have rights to reproduce classicminiatures.net those were interesting, Heritage was nearly the only game in town, when I was 12-13yrs old :)

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2010 10:38 p.m. PST

@Triple D = I think Partha sold them for a short while as I recall that is where I got mine. I think it even says Partha on the base.

It's been years and I'm too damn tired to look right now.

Warbeads12 Jul 2010 3:01 a.m. PST

Tiny is a relative term. Remember that many armies were 1/72nd plastic based at that time period.

Gracias,

Glenn

Poncho12 Jul 2010 6:18 a.m. PST

Or this:
link

:)

Farstar12 Jul 2010 10:20 a.m. PST

in my memory I had made my troll clan as Ral Partha, and instead they're Citadel.

They're sculpted by Tom Meier, for the most part, so the connection to Ral Partha is understandable. RP did sell them for a while, as that's where I got my few.

28mmMan12 Jul 2010 12:07 p.m. PST

Poncho! YouTube link that is one great troll IMO!

Cog Comp12 Jul 2010 5:36 p.m. PST

Let's see… The Fantasy Tribes Trolls were probably the best on the market for, like, ever… The new LotR trolls are excellent if you liked the look of them in the movie (I wish they were just a tad smaller, as I think the minis exaggerate the size of the trolls a bit).

The Mithril Trolls are fantastic, as is one that I have seen by Reaper that is similar to it(them).

My true wish is to have them all… All trolls by anyone who ever put them out and all trolls that will ever be created… Hell, why stop there, I want every miniature ever created and that will ever be created… And, the state of Rhode Island in which to store them all.

TheMasterworkGuild13 Jul 2010 3:54 a.m. PST

I really like the old Citadel Mutant Ogre/Chaos troll with spikes coming out of his back…
link

Daffy Doug13 Jul 2010 10:25 a.m. PST

@Triple D = I think Partha sold them for a short while as I recall that is where I got mine. I think it even says Partha on the base.

It's been years and I'm too damn tired to look right now.


About half of my trolls have "Citadel" on the base, the other half are blank. But I honestly cannot remember this long after if Ral Partha sold them or not. Evidence says "not". Except that Farstar agrees with you.

A couple of my trolls are old Dragon Tooth, and there is one "oldy boldy" papa troll, bald, huge (a true giant among trolls), with his gut flowing over the shaft of his stone-headed, two-handed club: truly gross to behold: I think he's a Citadel too, but obviously a different sculptor's creation than the smaller Citadel offerings in the link provided by Doc X. My clan is about 15 figures all told, iirc. I had them entirely on the table ONCE – in a scenario involving clearing out a pestilential troll enclave. Oh, and each of my trolls has a name written on the bottom of the base….

28mmMan14 Jul 2010 7:42 a.m. PST

New WIP green from Tom M @ Thunderbolt Mountain egads this is good picture

Cog Comp14 Jul 2010 8:18 p.m. PST

OK, Well, there is my new absolute favorite troll.

I am hoping he eventually does some with a bit more armor or oclothing on them and some other weapons (so I don't have to), to use for the armies of Mordor…

I SO wish that we could take up a collection to get Tom working solely on his fantasy lines for the next year. Of course, we would probably need to raise about 100 grand in order to make that a reality. I'd be willing to chip in 1/20 of that.

Last Hussar25 Jul 2010 3:14 p.m. PST

Shouldn't they all look like Sam? grin

charliemike26 Jul 2010 8:02 a.m. PST

I always liked the Grenadier Trolls.
You can find them here: link

Ciao
Luciano

Rogue Zoat27 Jul 2010 2:54 p.m. PST

As much as I'm loathe to admit it, I've always had a soft spot for GW's river trolls as they have a geniune bestial monster look instead of a typical "tall ugly, and OAP-esque, dude" look about them.

28mmMan17 Nov 2010 5:55 p.m. PST

Found a new troll and I can appreciate a certain JRRness to it link

Andy Skinner17 Nov 2010 7:34 p.m. PST

Here is one of my favorites:
link

and

link

andy

28mmMan17 Nov 2010 9:31 p.m. PST

Andy, I know another forum tore those trolls and other work from that same guy due to the GW commonality but I really liked those trolls…I thought they were and are great also.

Lion in the Stars18 Nov 2010 4:30 p.m. PST

Honestly, I like the PP 'feral' trolls: The Swamp, Winter, Pyre, and Dire Troll Mauler. They're big, muscley, and look rather upset at the world!

Shadyt19 Nov 2010 8:27 a.m. PST

My favorite Trolls in order:
Mithril has about 14 different trolls in their line, I have several of each.
Next Reaper Ogers, I use them as Trolls.
The GW LOTR trolls I have most of them.
The new Tom Meier troll at thunderbolt mountain is very nice. I hope he does some armored variants.

tillono2g19 Nov 2010 9:45 a.m. PST

The new one from Brother Vinni has risen to the top of my list. Those from Otherworld are nice too (I grew up with D&D and all those minis very faithfully follow the illustrations from the old Monster Manual)

28mmMan15 Dec 2010 7:38 p.m. PST

Great googly moogly, look at these guys link classic Rankin and Bass Hobbit movie troll look to me in the best Arthur Rackham style…me likey.

DA Pick22 Dec 2010 3:34 p.m. PST

Trolls in my mind should have a nose, not like the LotR movie versions, who look more like apes.
btw I have the same gripe about most orc depictions. Someone decided that they should be flat nosed and every body just followed suit. A big old nose (pointy or bulbous) make them look that much nastier and scarier. Monsters should have projections coming out of their bodies and that definately includes noses. I have taken to sculpting pointy noses on my GW LotR goblins too. A bit fiddly but now they look like scary monsters and not just armored monkeys !
BTW I also love those early Citadel trolls and some of the newer ones ( like Tom Meyers')as long as the features are not too exaggerated. Too much exaggeration creates unbelievable absurdity and cartoonishness . I guess that's my Troll-Orc-Goblin criteria : almost human scary and not too cartoonish … Saurons corrupted or failed attempts at humanoids…lurking on the fringes!

Eli Arndt22 Dec 2010 3:41 p.m. PST

28mmMan, those are trolls like I like them.

28mmMan22 Dec 2010 7:08 p.m. PST

Yep they are quite fun…they are just oozing troll goodness.

Space Monkey22 Dec 2010 8:09 p.m. PST

Those Warploque trolls are mighty nice.
My favorites amongst what I've got are those old Citadel/Ral Partha Import ones and various Mithril trolls I've picked up.

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