"Wurttemberg artillery" Topic

I'm trying to research this arm of service, prepatory to painting some & am confused on a few issues. It is very hard to interprete some old pictures.

Was the only difference in uniform between the foot & horse artillery branches (circa 1812) the colour of their breeches? Grey for horse & light blue for foot?

Did members of the horse artillery sit on a padded seat placed on the gun carriages?

What type of limbers were used (Austrian or French style)?

Thanks

Otto von Pivka in Armies of 1812 gives the the breeches of both as light blue and states that artillery equipment was painted light brown. However, Haythornthwaite in Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow says legwear was for the artillery (he doesn't specify foot or horse but I assume foot) was "either light blue breeches and black gaiters, or on campaign, grey overalls with black leather reinforcing with or without light blue stripes, officers having light blue overalls with double gold stripe".

Horse artillery would have boots and foot artillery would have shoes with black gaiters gaiters. On campaign grey overalls were normally worn. Parade light blue breeches or white trousers were used.

Stephen

I don't know if this will help its a box image of hats latest
release of the Wurttemburg Artillery. As per Stephens discription.

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Regards
James

Dear James
Close but I would have cavalry boots for horse artillery and gaiters for foot artillery. A strange mix there.
Stephen

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ca 1809:
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Guard Foot:
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Foot:
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Guard horse:
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Speaking of "strange mixes"….much of my information is full of it, as is one of Ste's links.

You often get source material that does this. Is this the result of the artist trying to cover all the bases or did the troops often wear mix'n'match uniforms?

Uniformology: a journey without end.

(Oh, & thanks everyone)

I would not expect to see leather inserts on the overalls of foot artillery.

But I would expect to see overalls on both foot and horse. The horse crew would have cavalry sabres and cartouche.

The foot artillery would most likely have short sabers and backpacks.

Is the head gear the same for both?

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For vehichels see Jacobi (1845):

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The plates (4) are at the back. Although these are dated 1845, the carriages look quite similar to the Faber de Faur illustrations.

I will provide more, earlier, drawings in a day or two as well as pictures of model carriages of the period.

1785 Artillerie lower left cotner:

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Das Königlich Württembergische Militär von 1683-1856 (1856):
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12. Fussartillerie, 1735-1811
13. Fussartillerie, 1813-1849
14. Reitende Artillerie, 1784-1813
15. Reitende Artillerie, 1813-1849

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Aren't you the Mine of Information.
Thankyou.

The limber looks more Austrian than Gribeauval?

"Aren't you the Mine of Information." Absolutely!

Like the sign over the toilet said, "I aim to please. You aim too, please."

Steve – many thanks for your of your efforts here including your posting of digital sources!

QUESTION – is there anyone here who has a the images from the Das Königlich Württembergische Militär von 1683-1856 (1856) series? I have a quick question concerning the date / year attributed to the unforms as the head-gear transitions from tri/bicorne to helmet.

If anyone knows when this transition occured I would be most greatful.

Thanks!
Beeker

Several plates from Stadlinger's Das Königlich Württembergische Militär von 1638 bis 1856 in historisch malerischen Abbildungen auf 36 Blättern (1856):

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Text:

Stadlinger. Geschichte des württembergischen Kriegswesens von der frühesten bis zur neuesten Zeit (1856). 682 pages:

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More, see:

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