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khurasanminiatures16 Jun 2010 10:36 a.m. PST

Here are six poses of 15mm scale deinonychus "raptor" dinosaurs.

These are anatomically correct -- no, we don't mean that way, we mean, they have feathers!

picture

These are large enough to be menacing to 15mm figures, but interestingly they are also suitable for smaller raptor dinosaurs for use with your 28mm models.

Perfect for sci fi Jurassic Park type adventures, fantasy reptilian armies, and of course prehistoric/lost world gaming. Available soon!

WarrenB16 Jun 2010 11:05 a.m. PST

Niiice! The ruff around the bald head reminds me a bit of Victorian mutton-chops; a bit like this guy, which might be appropriate:

link

… but even at 15mm they blow a lot of 28mm efforts out of the water.

P.S. I seem to remember pics of a bootiful Triceratops sculpt associated with Khurasan Minis. Can't find it on the site. Any news about that?

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Warren B.
minisculpture.co.uk

ComradeCommissar16 Jun 2010 11:37 a.m. PST

Authenticity be damned! I want Jurassic Park raptors! picture

That being said, those are very nice! Any chance of seeing them next to a 15mm and/or 28mm figure?

khurasanminiatures16 Jun 2010 11:40 a.m. PST

WarrenB, grin. Think that's just the way Chris chose to show the edge of the feather coat. You can paint it any way you want! In fact there's an argument to be made for the skin and the feathers being the same colour.

There are actually two triceratops poses, and two interchangable heads, making for a minimum of four different poses for the herd. I say "at least" because there's some posability of the separate heads. I have the castings, just waiting for them to be painted.

Commissar, I think other people make the plucked chicken raptors. wink. I'm a big Dino fan though so I want to make all my models as accurate as possible.

I actually asked the painter for a scale reference photo but he hasn't sent it yet.

Hexxenhammer16 Jun 2010 12:29 p.m. PST

15mm deinonychus would probably work for 28mm velociraptor…I think I'll have to get some.

(I make fun of others)16 Jun 2010 12:29 p.m. PST

Here's a template you can actually use to figure out what the best colour combos would be before you paint them:

PDF link

rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP16 Jun 2010 1:17 p.m. PST

Those raptors are great. When are they available? And the triceratops? I'll order as soon as they're on your site

ComradeCommissar16 Jun 2010 2:43 p.m. PST

I think other people make the plucked chicken raptors.

Yes, but are they as nice as your feathered ones? (No, IMHO.)

I'm still disillusioned that there was no such thing as Brontosaurus…

Eli Arndt16 Jun 2010 3:17 p.m. PST

Wow!

Those are awesome and exactly what I'd expect feathered raptors to look like!

It'll almost be a shame to give them guns and gear :)

-Eli

nvdoyle16 Jun 2010 7:15 p.m. PST

It'll almost be a shame to give them guns and gear :)

Yeah, for that purpose I'm going to stick with the smoothskin types – gear would sink into the feathers, and I don't think I'd be able to sculpt it properly.

(Okay, it's an open question whether I'd be able to sculpt it at all…but it's still a project idea!)

These guys do look very, very neat, though. I must be behind on my dino info – I guess we've found fossils of Velociraptor that have distinct feather patterns?

Mapleleaf16 Jun 2010 7:38 p.m. PST

Will Chris Bosch stay or go ?

Is Triano a NBA coach ?

Oh -- mot those Raptors -- Sorry !

Eli Arndt16 Jun 2010 7:51 p.m. PST

@nvoyle Though not all dinos had them, feathers on dinosaurs is pretty much fact at this point.

Wellspring17 Jun 2010 4:55 a.m. PST

They've found many raptor fossils where the feather impressions are preserved. At this point, the evidence is pretty overwhelming.

Jon, do you have a pic next to a human figure for scale?

(I make fun of others)17 Jun 2010 5:29 a.m. PST

I must be behind on my dino info – I guess we've found fossils of Velociraptor that have distinct feather patterns?

link

unitrecon17 Jun 2010 5:30 a.m. PST

"Be vewy quiet I'm hunting – aaaargh!"

Mulligan17 Jun 2010 8:26 a.m. PST

Those are indeed beautiful figures. My compliments to the sculptor and the painter. I was looking at pictures of feathered raptors in a Wikipedia article on Monday, as a matter of fact. While I am not a 15-mm pulp gamer, if those raptors would be about the size of turkeys next to a 28-mm figure I would definitely be interested in a pack or two.

Mulligan

Eli Arndt17 Jun 2010 8:53 a.m. PST

Yes, some scale pics next to 28mm and 15mm humans would be great.

WarrenB17 Jun 2010 2:37 p.m. PST

There are actually two triceratops poses, and two interchangable heads, making for a minimum of four different poses for the herd. I say "at least" because there's some posability of the separate heads. I have the castings, just waiting for them to be painted.

Commissar, I think other people make the plucked chicken raptors. wink. I'm a big Dino fan though so I want to make all my models as accurate as possible.

Bless you doubly, sir.

On feathery raptors: I've heard complaints that feathers make them too 'fluffy'. I think some artists depict them as fairly (too?) frizzy, but I don't agree with the cuddly side of it. Unless cassowaries and vultures and things are cuddly.
Maybe the resistance is because it makes them less lizardlike: ironically more like the real animal and not a coldly alien movie monster. A thing that helps, or so I tell myself, is to imagine a ground-running hawk the size of a wolf; with big teeth and bigger claws on all four limbs; and a prey range that human-sized creatures fit comfortably into. Not something I'd readily pat on the head or sing pre-school life-lessons with…

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Warren B.
minisculpture.co.uk

unitrecon18 Jun 2010 2:06 a.m. PST

Suitable for a certain Hammers Slammers game – but you need 50,000 of them.

I can think of so many uses for these – South American jungle and pirates comes to mind. Vietnam- Hammers again, "Sir, there's some type of turkey farm up ahead."

Introduced to control Zombie, rabbit or triffid populations!

"Gentlemen, these prove that genetic re-creation of the dodo was not an impossible dream!"

"Fly my winged beuties!"

I'm wondering if I can mount some of Pendraken's 10mm lizardmen on the top-

Ah! perfect "dogpack" for your lizard hunters.

Hm, certain non-Kzin leader with arm outstretched.

Thank you!

CooperSteveOnTheLaptop18 Jun 2010 2:27 a.m. PST

Great! Might try a Cretaceous version of TRY-TO-SURVIVEASAURUS produced by LKM Direct

Battle Works Studios18 Jun 2010 5:42 a.m. PST

Those have a lot of potential for being xenofauna too – the feathered look makes them look alien to most old-school dino fans already, and doing a "weird" color scheme and some trivial putty work to add a horn or third eye or something would put them over the top.

khurasanminiatures18 Jun 2010 7:01 a.m. PST

Well, we have to do something about that. wink. People need to be exposed to the new ideas on dinosaurs, to help them see that dinosaurs are still among us, and are in fact the most successful tetrapods even today (at least not counting sentient species). Seeing that coelurosaurs were mostly all feathered, and seeing them depicted as such, will bridge the disconnect in peoples' brains between dinosaurs and birds. There's really no difference between a featherless velociraptor and a tail dragging t. Rex or a swamp waddling "brontosaurus."

I got two comparison pictures and if I'm able I'll post them later today, or tonight in any event.

Mulligan18 Jun 2010 7:26 a.m. PST

Now, all we really need is a sculpt of Colonel Sanders running in terror.

Mulligan

khurasanminiatures18 Jun 2010 8:12 a.m. PST

Here are comparison pics.

Raptors vs 15mm resistance fighter (yikes, game's over, let's go get some brew):
picture

Raptors attacking a gothic sci fi armoured nun made by a small independent miniatures company:
picture

Jojojimmyjohn18 Jun 2010 8:25 a.m. PST

Awesome! When are these going up on your site?

khurasanminiatures18 Jun 2010 8:36 a.m. PST

Probably early next week.

Matsuru Sami Kaze18 Jun 2010 2:55 p.m. PST

I'll be checking in on them too. Been after some in this scale.

Wellspring18 Jun 2010 7:07 p.m. PST

The size is just right. I was worried that they'd be too big. The paint looks good-- actually it looks exactly like the wikipedia artist's conception. ;)

OK so feathers on dinosaurs. First, there aren't many out there, and since raptors came in a variety of sizes, this works in lots of scales. Second, feathers on dinosaurs don't look ridiculous to me, but they might look ridiculous to some people because we've been reared on nekkid lizards for a hundred years. I'm happy with accuracy.

Jon raises a point I've seen Alton Brown talk about. When he's talking about how to carve a chicken, he buys a balsa wood t-rex skeleton, lops off the head and tail, and -- bam! -- it's a chicken skeleton. When I was a child, I heard about these incredible, huge, bizarre monsters that used to rule the world but suddenly disappeared, and no one knew why. During my life, we've learned that, incredibly, the answer is they didn't. They're still around, and more often than not it's dinosaurs on my table for dinner. That's a pretty cool story.

Zephyr118 Jun 2010 7:24 p.m. PST

The color scheme is all wrong. They should be pink, like flamingos… ;-)

Wellspring19 Jun 2010 5:53 a.m. PST

Also, here's some RL size comparisons. These figures should therefore be ok for everything from 10mm to 28mm.

link

(Received from a TMPer who is currently an Un-Person. He bribed a guard and slipped the link out to me in a hollowed -out loaf of bread. Thanks for the samizdat!!)

platypus01au20 Jun 2010 3:44 a.m. PST

Will we get any herbivores?

John

Borathan20 Jun 2010 10:39 a.m. PST

Perfect size for 28mm realistic velociraptors.

However, for my modern dinosaur outbreak scenarios, I'm probably still going to keep using the ones I got from the JP board games simply for appearance purposes

khurasanminiatures20 Jun 2010 1:30 p.m. PST

Will we get any herbivores?

Yup, the triceratops already mentioned in this thread. If the line proves popular I will make an ankylosaur, then perhaps a few hadrosaurs.

28mmMan20 Jun 2010 4:11 p.m. PST

"It'll almost be a shame to give them guns and gear :)"

I would think it would NOT be a shame. It would be interesting and fun.

Equip them I say! Huzzah!

Eli Arndt20 Jun 2010 7:08 p.m. PST

I plan to, though those are bigger in 15mm than I had planned for. Now, to find suitable weapons in 15mm. Not all that adept at sculpting equipment.

-Eli

larskyler21 Jun 2010 4:39 p.m. PST

With regards to the comparison photos, I don't want to be the person standing in the middle of either pack. Nice work.

28mmMan22 Jun 2010 7:31 a.m. PST

I might be tempted to paint them in this theme picture fun times.

Cacique Caribe22 Jun 2010 12:40 p.m. PST

I know that this site says 10mm, but I wonder how these other feathered dinos compare in size:

link

Or these naked ones:

link

Dan

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