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Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2010 7:54 a.m. PST

I genuinly like clunky tanks – anything that's basically a carden-lloyd carrier plus 1cm of armour plate and armed with a 2pounder I find, for want of a better word, "charming".

By the time people work out where the engine should be, that the armour should be thick enough to stop a stray rifle round, and that the main gun should be able to at least scratch the enemy's tanks I find them a bit dull.

So, what's your favourite ? Maybe pick top 3 or 5 if list gets long enough. A few suggestions :

Char B1
Renault FT-17
Bob Semple tank.
Matilda I
Anything 1930's and japanese
Anything 1930's and italian
Don't like clunky tanks, give me Tigers.
Not a wargamer

Battle Works Studios08 Jun 2010 7:57 a.m. PST

Matildas and KV-2s are both good clunkers.

Klebert L Hall08 Jun 2010 8:01 a.m. PST

T-35.
-Kle.

runs with scissors08 Jun 2010 8:02 a.m. PST

This is why I am painting stuff for Poland 1939. Panzer Is vs TKS tankettes. And anything with two machine gun turrets.

Tom Reed08 Jun 2010 8:05 a.m. PST

US M2 with two turrets, M3Lee.

madrig08 Jun 2010 8:06 a.m. PST

Leman Russ- gotta love that future tech.

Fat Wally08 Jun 2010 8:10 a.m. PST

I like the look of the T-28

Two Owl Bob08 Jun 2010 8:15 a.m. PST

Vickers MkVIb and Pz38T are a couple of my all time favourites.

anleiher08 Jun 2010 8:16 a.m. PST

Char 2C, hands down.

Sane Max08 Jun 2010 8:18 a.m. PST

Only Borderline Clunky, as it was only rendered so by the enemy's tech advances, but I have always loved the BT series.

Pat

redbanner414508 Jun 2010 8:23 a.m. PST

I'm w/ Fat Wally. The T-28.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2010 8:42 a.m. PST

Should I have put real world, historical, really got built in the title of the thread ?

Maybe I should've. :-)

MkVIb is rather super.

archstanton7308 Jun 2010 8:45 a.m. PST

T-28…

Derek H08 Jun 2010 8:51 a.m. PST

L3/35

But there are so many of them. And they're all 100 times coller than any Tiger.

kreoseus208 Jun 2010 8:53 a.m. PST

The grant, why have 1 good gun when you can have 2 crap ones ?

nazrat08 Jun 2010 8:55 a.m. PST

I've always liked the T-26. Is that still "clunky"?

avidgamer08 Jun 2010 8:56 a.m. PST

Stug

Eclectic Wave08 Jun 2010 8:59 a.m. PST

M3 medium tank – The General Lee.

Why? Because every time someone mentions the old show "Dukes of Hazard" I see a M3 tank jumping a river while that stupid horn blows Dixie. Sick, yes I know.

Garand08 Jun 2010 9:03 a.m. PST

Panzer 35(t)!

Damon.

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2010 9:07 a.m. PST

I've always liked the T-26. Is that still "clunky"?

Certainly the A model fits the bill, with its separate MG turrets.

I will cast a vote for the Churchill MkI, with the 2pdr in the turret and a 3" howitzer sticking out the front of the hull. The British equivalent of the M3 Lee.

anleiher08 Jun 2010 9:12 a.m. PST

Apparently my argument needs some visual support. Therefore I offer you the following:

YouTube link

DeanMoto08 Jun 2010 9:19 a.m. PST

A7V – the king of clunk.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2010 9:25 a.m. PST

I agree – clunky tanks are so much cooler than Tigers, never understood the WWII power gaming thing.

Who'd want a tiger when you could have a 2 man tankette with little armoured bubbles for the crew or a turret cluttered up with a rear mounted machine gun ?

Jimmy da Purple08 Jun 2010 9:30 a.m. PST

I have always loved the Matilda. Tried to get my wife to accept it asz a baby name, but she figured it out. She was not about to name a daughter after a tank.

fred12df08 Jun 2010 9:38 a.m. PST

The A9 has to be up there. Little dinky MG turrets, near vertical turret sides and totally unreliable.

Griefbringer08 Jun 2010 9:39 a.m. PST

What about the Panzer I chassis used to mount a 15 cm infantry gun?

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2010 9:43 a.m. PST

Should we allow SPGs ? Tricky. The german tank hunter based on the Bren Carrier is really nice. And the Crocodile Carrier also is suitably bizzare looking.

Skrapwelder08 Jun 2010 9:45 a.m. PST

Marmon Herrington CTVL

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Personal logo Jeff Ewing Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2010 9:53 a.m. PST

No love for the Vickers Mk II or the Independent? My all-time favorite might be the T-26: slow, under armored, and inappropriately armed for an infantry tank.

Colin Hagreen08 Jun 2010 10:10 a.m. PST

It's got to be the T28 or the T35 for me… lovely looking beasts, though I wouldn't want to be the crew for either of them!

Colin
thewulfweb.blogspot.com

Richard Humm08 Jun 2010 10:16 a.m. PST

Is the Whippet too early to be included?

General Rout08 Jun 2010 10:18 a.m. PST

I add to the T28 dogpile but also cast a vote for the Churchhill tank (big and clanky – perhaps the Crocodile variant trailing its fuel tank!)

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2010 10:21 a.m. PST

I am partial to the A7V but the St Chamond is close behind

ming3108 Jun 2010 10:25 a.m. PST

M3 lee named Louloubelle .

scotzkane08 Jun 2010 10:26 a.m. PST

T-35-when the crew bails you have a squad.

All the two man tanks/tankettes should race at Monaco-now there's a game. Have random tank hunters with ATR's shooting at them.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2010 10:28 a.m. PST

The St Charmond is a great lumbering disaster ! Love it. But the Whippet ? Compared to what else was around it has the air of a wonder weapon !

Although the FT-17 is cluncky it also survives until the end of WWII (and a little beyond ?), so it's successful. But cluncky none the less.

Dark Knights And Bloody Dawns08 Jun 2010 10:48 a.m. PST

Aren't the Chinese still using clunky tanks?

Jamesonsafari08 Jun 2010 11:07 a.m. PST

Lots of good ones mentioned.
But I have a soft spot for the Vickers MkII Medium. Would've ruled the battlefield if WW2 had happened in 1925.

Could we maybe pick a top 5?

batesmotel3408 Jun 2010 11:08 a.m. PST

I'll also vote for the T35. It even qualifies under the two MG turrets rule ;-).

Chris

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2010 12:10 p.m. PST

The clunkyist is the Sutton Skunk
link

quidveritas08 Jun 2010 12:17 p.m. PST

Little Willie of course!

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mjc

ACWBill08 Jun 2010 12:27 p.m. PST

1.) PzKFW 38-T
2.) M-13/40
3.) Type 97 Chi Ha
4.) Matilda I
5.) PzKFW 35-T

The Gray Ghost08 Jun 2010 12:31 p.m. PST

Well the Matilda is the coolest clunky tank of all but after that I like the Japanese stuff.

The Monstrous Jake08 Jun 2010 12:31 p.m. PST

Cruiser Tanks A9, A10, A13, and Covenanter.

Together they formed a major portion of the British tank forces during the first few years of WWII (well, aside from the Covenanter), but you still can't find any of them as injection molded plastic kits, aside from the fairly new and rather expensive A13 in 1/35 scale.

Always wondered about that. Crusaders you can find in several scales from several manufacturers, but no cruiser tanks earlier than that.

Feet up now08 Jun 2010 12:51 p.m. PST

When I saw 'Clunky' I thought about these two straight away KV-2 and Churchill AVRE with it's Flying Dustbins.

The Marder seems to be a bit 'tinny' still had a naughty ouchy gun for it's frame.From the list the Matilda I looks to fill the slot,just about.

Timbo W08 Jun 2010 12:53 p.m. PST

If its clunkiness you're after-

Corrugated iron plus tractor equals?

Not the A-Team,

The mighty Bob Semple Tank from New Zealand link

Martin Rapier08 Jun 2010 12:53 p.m. PST

Medium Mark II and the Vickers Light.

The twin turret T-26 is a fine runner up.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2010 12:57 p.m. PST

Churchill AVRE is a bit of a special weapons version of a fairly decent tank though.

The G Dog Fezian08 Jun 2010 2:33 p.m. PST

The Japanese Type 97 tankette. Armor that won't stop a bullet, a single lousy MG and small enough to fit on the rear deck of the Sherman.

John the Confused08 Jun 2010 2:47 p.m. PST

Here is a couple experimental or not adopted clunky chunky tanks

TOG

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Black Prince – a Churchill on steroids

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