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"Construction of the Great Redoubt at Borodino" Topic


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Prussian Glory19 May 2010 4:26 p.m. PST

Does anyone know of roughly the size of the redoubt and how many days and men required to construct it?

My only knowledge is that it held between 12 and 18 guns, was closed in the back but open on the sides and had wolf pits in front for skirmishers.

Did they have a deep trench 6 to eight 8 deep and about the same size wide or was there not enough time and maybe three feet deep and across making it impossible for cavalry but infantry could at least manage but with difficulty.

Any descriptions would be helpful.

138SquadronRAF19 May 2010 5:01 p.m. PST

There a good drawing of it in Hourttoulle "Moscow".

As to size, allow about 30' a gun, so its going to be as 200 – 300 meters for the batteries and say another 50 for the ends.

jonspaintingservice19 May 2010 7:54 p.m. PST

TMP link

A previous topic covering the same thing. Should cover what you're looking for.

WKeyser20 May 2010 2:59 a.m. PST

If I recall correctly then the book on the battle by Makibeze (sp) has some diagrams of the redoubts.
William

summerfield20 May 2010 3:10 a.m. PST

Yes the Mikaberidze book on Borodino has the dimensions and information on construction that show that it was far less substantial than was thought. The Hourtoule drawings are misleading.

Stephen

1815Guy20 May 2010 6:40 a.m. PST

According to Nafziger it was only knee high, scraped up, by troops who had lost their tools. It might appear higher if you were below it on a slope, of course.

It was taken on the day without too much trouble by French converged grenadiers from the front and later by cavalry from the sides and the rear. I think from memory it was far smaller than 300 mtres. Half that sounds about right.

archstanton7320 May 2010 9:03 a.m. PST

"According to Nafziger it was only knee high, scraped up, by troops who had lost their tools. It might appear higher if you were below it on a slope, of course."….

Mmmmmm I think he may be thinking about the Great Redoubt at the Battle of the Alma…Which WAS just a scrape on a hill!!!

1815Guy28 May 2010 4:50 a.m. PST

Well, he quoted a source on it.

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