Connard Sage | 19 May 2010 9:48 a.m. PST |
Which battle has had more ink (and pixels) expended upon it in after the fact analysis? Suggestions? I reckon Waterloo must be in with the leaders of the pack. And, though I know this is probably a forlorn hope, this thread is not an invitation to start a flame war(s). |
Griefbringer | 19 May 2010 9:52 a.m. PST |
On medieval battles, Agincourt tends to get quite some attention. |
Pictors Studio | 19 May 2010 9:54 a.m. PST |
In the states it is Gettysburg by far. |
John the OFM | 19 May 2010 9:54 a.m. PST |
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ArchiducCharles | 19 May 2010 9:57 a.m. PST |
Got to be Waterloo. Austerlitz also gets a lot, but nothing compared to the above. |
ming31 | 19 May 2010 10:05 a.m. PST |
on the US in WWII The Buldge, and midway |
John Leahy | 19 May 2010 10:13 a.m. PST |
Probably Gettysburg and also Waterloo. |
nazrat | 19 May 2010 10:14 a.m. PST |
I'd bet Waterloo would win by a country mile. But Rourke's Drift and The Alamo would have to be in the top ten somewhere
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Mserafin | 19 May 2010 10:14 a.m. PST |
I think Waterloo, then Gettysburg. Everyone analyzes Waterloo, but most of the analysis of Gettysburg was done by the Confederate generals involved, each trying to blame the other for the defeat. |
nazrat | 19 May 2010 10:14 a.m. PST |
And Tarawa. There are tons of books on that one! |
richarDISNEY | 19 May 2010 10:21 a.m. PST |
Around TMP? Jenkins Ear
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avidgamer | 19 May 2010 10:38 a.m. PST |
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Stevus | 19 May 2010 10:42 a.m. PST |
Its going to depend what side of the pond you are on i'd think. In the UK i'd say Waterloo, D-Day and Market Garden by miles. |
Jovian1 | 19 May 2010 10:46 a.m. PST |
Waterloo in terms of books, papers, and research be a wide margin. Although D-Day would be a good second choice, lots of analysis and ink expended on that battle as well. |
GoodBye | 19 May 2010 10:59 a.m. PST |
Waterloo, D-Day and Gettysburg to judge by the books at Borders. |
Tachikoma | 19 May 2010 11:02 a.m. PST |
While Gettysburg seems to be the leading contender in the US, I think strong arguments can also be made for Little Big Horn and (depending upon how you define 'battle') the OK Corral. |
Scorpio | 19 May 2010 11:07 a.m. PST |
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mjkerner | 19 May 2010 11:20 a.m. PST |
You'd have to add Guadalcanal to the WWII battles. |
Lentulus | 19 May 2010 11:20 a.m. PST |
I'll nominate Stalingrad, especially if you include dissection in languages other than English. |
fred12df | 19 May 2010 11:23 a.m. PST |
D-day --lots of books with even more published after the 50 anniversary Market Garden has to be up there – certainly the number of books and level of intrest out weighs it's size Waterloo Battle of Britian |
Gallowglass | 19 May 2010 11:27 a.m. PST |
I'll nominate Stalingrad, especially if you include dissection in languages other than English. I thought about D-Day, Stalingrad and Gettysburg, but I think it probably IS Waterloo after all (as an individual battle, rather than a campaign) if you take into account studies etc. in languages other than English. I did read an opinion somewhere that the American Civil War was probably the most written-about war in history. I could believe that, to be fair, given the sheer volume of personal accounts, official records, novels and actual histories out there. |
abelp01 | 19 May 2010 11:43 a.m. PST |
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adub74 | 19 May 2010 11:52 a.m. PST |
Waterloo – I was defeated, you won the war Waterloo – promise to love you for ever more Waterloo – couldn't escape if I wanted to Waterloo – knowing my fate is to be with you Waterloo – finally facing my waterloo |
Tom Reed | 19 May 2010 11:55 a.m. PST |
How about The Battle of Little Bighorn? There seems to be plenty of books about that one. |
Connard Sage | 19 May 2010 12:05 p.m. PST |
The key word, that some people seem to be overlooking is 'analysis'. Not 'someone bought out another book full of pretty pictures about the Battle of Pratt's Bottom for the 327th anniversary of the event'
Do please carry on. It's interesting to watch the US/Euro divide. |
avidgamer | 19 May 2010 12:33 p.m. PST |
It has to be either Waterloo or Gettysburg. There isn't another close, none. To my way of thinking it's Gettysburg because EVERY year there are buckets of books published on it, every year!. Just when you think, 'It's done to death! There can't be anything else'
another dozen books come out. Gettysburg. |
Natholeon | 19 May 2010 12:49 p.m. PST |
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ArchiducCharles | 19 May 2010 12:54 p.m. PST |
- To my way of thinking it's Gettysburg because EVERY year there are buckets of books published on it, every year! - Same with Waterloo, but Waterloo has a 48 years head start. |
Steve Hazuka | 19 May 2010 1:11 p.m. PST |
I'd say the big 3 would be; Waterloo D-Day Gettysburg |
Tango India Mike | 19 May 2010 1:29 p.m. PST |
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DocMagus | 19 May 2010 2:29 p.m. PST |
Funny, nothing got mentioned of any WW1 battles. |
Fonthill Hoser | 19 May 2010 2:52 p.m. PST |
Beaverdams
well, OK, I only said it because I live a couple miles away
Hoser |
avidgamer | 19 May 2010 4:03 p.m. PST |
"Same with Waterloo, but Waterloo has a 48 years head start." Ohhhhhhhhhh
I don't think that mattered much. The Gettysburg writers alive and dead bang-out these books out at a record pace. Gettysburg is number one, Waterloo is number two and Abe Lincoln is number three. Okay Honest Abe isn't a battle but it was once said in the "Memorial" period of the CW that there were so many books on Lincoln alone that the reviewer claimed "the ONLY thing that wasn't covered about Lincoln was a book on Lincoln's Doctor's dog
" and he expected that shortly! :) |
Connard Sage | 19 May 2010 4:38 p.m. PST |
*sigh* It's like herding cats. Cats with shorter attention spans than a goldfish. |
idontbelieveit | 19 May 2010 4:56 p.m. PST |
In english I guess you mean. I'm sure Russians, Germans, and Japanese would have different answers. |
Connard Sage | 19 May 2010 5:00 p.m. PST |
ed if I know. I'm still waiting for TMP's German, Russian and Japanese members to get back to me. More pedants need not apply. We have enough of those already. |
Uesugi Kenshin | 19 May 2010 5:19 p.m. PST |
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John the OFM | 19 May 2010 7:14 p.m. PST |
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Renaud S | 19 May 2010 9:17 p.m. PST |
In France, you'll have to count with Verdun. Much more given attention in the popular psyche than Waterloo. Verdun Marne D Day 1944 May 1940 Alesia Dien Bien-Phu And after only the napoleonic battles. |
Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut | 19 May 2010 9:32 p.m. PST |
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BravoX | 20 May 2010 2:12 a.m. PST |
If analysis is defined tightly I would say Waterloo or D-Day by a long long way. |
Cardinal Hawkwood | 20 May 2010 3:14 a.m. PST |
Gallipoi does well in Australia |
Martin Rapier | 20 May 2010 3:57 a.m. PST |
Sticking with analysis rather than mere narrative or mention as part of something else
For a battle of its size (a few divisions over a few days), Arnhem. |
WarWizard | 20 May 2010 6:34 a.m. PST |
Here is my informal scientific analysis: On Amazon.com in the BOOKS category I searched on Gettysburg and got 5,056 results: link I keyed in Waterloo and got 4,365 results: link I keyed in D-Day and got 9,136 results: link I keyed in Alamo and got 3,900 results: link |
nycjadie | 20 May 2010 6:57 a.m. PST |
As there are few pretty photographs available for Gettysburg and Waterloo, I would nominate those two. Unless you're familiar with the WWII writings, it's impossible to sort through the chaff of D-Day photograph books to get to any substance. I've read some Alamo books and in my view, it's difficult to find anything written beyond the American point of view. I did pick up a book yesterday from the Mexican point of view, so I'm eager to see what it says. |
Tommy20 | 20 May 2010 7:27 a.m. PST |
I would suspect it's something like: In the US: Gettysburg In th UK: Waterloo US & UK combined: D-Day |
Martin Rapier | 20 May 2010 8:12 a.m. PST |
I like the amazon test. Amazon.co.uk. Gettysburg 13,357 Waterloo 27,685 D-Day 8,325 Arnhem 5,400 Hastings 38,904
.. however on the august pages of TMP I would humbly submit that Montgomery's genius/idiocy wrt Arnhem has been the subject of more ink and blood spilled than all the other battles in history put together. Just ot give our German and Russian pals a chance: Borodino 1,894 Koeniggratz + Sadowa, 183 +1409 I tried Sedan but got a lot of car manuals. Hitler 52,105 Stalin 29,243 Napoleon 68,720 Churchill 63,502 Vive L'Empereur! |
ArchiducCharles | 20 May 2010 10:51 a.m. PST |
No surprise there, I once read that Napoleon is the second most wrote about (in terms of book) person, behind a guy called Jesus
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avidgamer | 20 May 2010 11:50 a.m. PST |
Using Amazon for a definitive source is silly. There are hundreds and hundreds of books that they don't carry and/or are out of print. |
autos da fe | 20 May 2010 12:39 p.m. PST |
Well then, on Google books, which is likely a more representative sample:
.Search Term
In Title Gettysburg:
25,500
2,489 Waterloo:
.34,973
2,603 D-Day:
..9,450
1,215 Porto Bello:
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