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khurasanminiatures10 May 2010 8:48 a.m. PST

Here are two pics of the print of the M5A3, which came in on Saturday. It's already on its way to the caster, so eta one month.

It's big! The tank it's compared to is a T-34-85 tank of WWII vintage.

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Battle Works Studios10 May 2010 8:50 a.m. PST

Very nice. Love those secondary gun mounts.

Eli Arndt10 May 2010 9:05 a.m. PST

Jon that tank is insane!

Cool, but insane!

MiniatureReview10 May 2010 9:08 a.m. PST

I like it a lot, although I do with the gun was made out of metal. Resin guns tend to break on me.

Steve Hazuka10 May 2010 9:10 a.m. PST

Yikes looks like were gonna need a bigger table!

khurasanminiatures10 May 2010 9:12 a.m. PST

You realize that's just the print, right Tom? wink

The gun barrel, the four drive lengths, the two turret hatches, the two Gatling guns and their mounts will all be metal. Actually the gun is so massive that it probably could be done in resin, but I've decided to do it in metal.

Battle Works Studios10 May 2010 9:33 a.m. PST

Oops, never mind.

Grumpy Monkey10 May 2010 9:43 a.m. PST

Very nice, just needs a BunBun decal and it will be all set :)

wminsing10 May 2010 9:55 a.m. PST

<whistles> wow, that is impressive.

-Will

28mmMan10 May 2010 10:10 a.m. PST

That is a nice tank. And the goodness keeps rolling out the door!

khurasanminiatures10 May 2010 10:14 a.m. PST

Yes Jeff, I may need to put out a set of reinforced tables for when two M5s give battle to a Dictator! grin

bun bun? Me too old to know what that is.

(I make fun of others)10 May 2010 10:22 a.m. PST

bun bun? Me too old to know what that is.

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Jakar Nilson10 May 2010 10:48 a.m. PST

sluggy.com

See the bunny with the switchblade? That's Bun Bun. Now walk away slowly…

(I make fun of others)10 May 2010 11:22 a.m. PST

Actually I think Grumpy Smurf was talking about the superheavy tank the bun-bun, not the cartoon character.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP10 May 2010 12:01 p.m. PST

In best Scottish accent, "Now that's a tank!".

Allen5710 May 2010 12:25 p.m. PST

Great tank but it pales in comparison to Bun-Bun in the Posleen books.

khurasanminiatures10 May 2010 1:43 p.m. PST

Sorry I was not trying to make a bun bun! Just a big tank. grin

MiniatureReview10 May 2010 2:27 p.m. PST

Well then Jon, you have just made a winner of a product. Having all those parts be metal is awesome. Exactly how I would have wanted it.

BlackWidowPilot Fezian10 May 2010 2:46 p.m. PST

Oh, it's a BIG tank yer wantin? Lesseee…


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I see yer Bunny, and raise you one REALLY BIG tank.evil grin


Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
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(I make fun of others)11 May 2010 5:14 a.m. PST

I like the idea of four tracks instead of two. Still gives you some mobility if you take a track hit. I wonder how practical it is using current technology?

Eli Arndt11 May 2010 8:04 a.m. PST

At that size, you are not having four tracks for the sake of redundancy but just to keep that behemoth moving. Losing one of the four is likely going to be pretty devestating on a vehicle like that.

The advantage comes in repair. You don't have to switch out an entire side of the tank if one of the quad tracks gets knocked out. On the maintenance and supply though, you likely take a hit as you most likely have twice as much drive gear now.

(I make fun of others)11 May 2010 8:31 a.m. PST

At that size, you are not having four tracks for the sake of redundancy but just to keep that behemoth moving.

Actually, no, the ground pressure would be greater with four lengths than with two. The four lengths put more pressure on the tracks than two would, as you have a smaller surface area on the ground than if it were one continuous length, because there is a gap in the middle that would not be there if it were one continuous length.

Still think it would be done to provide some remaining drive on a side of the vehicle that has taken a hit to one of its drive lengths on that side.

Lion in the Stars11 May 2010 10:29 a.m. PST

Ah, Bun-Bun, the superheavy assault gun SheVa 9 (spoken "Shiva" like the goddess of destruction). The ninth vehicle built by Shenandoa Valley mining equipment. 7000 tons of nuclear powered destruction, with a 16"/100cal smoothbore gun launching antimatter-enhanced APFSDS rounds at roughly 2000m/s.

Designed to take on orbital-assault dropships sniper-style: one shot, one kill. Due to the 200kt antimatter warheads on the APDS (nevermind the 1+mt for the 'HE' round), all the SheVa guns required NCA permission to fire… until the Posleen actually landed. After that point, the POTUS directly ordered the SheVa units weapons free, unlimited use of weapons at tank commander's discretion.

Eli Arndt11 May 2010 1:11 p.m. PST

The gap in the middle is minimal. Not that it wouldn't have an effect over a continuous linkage, but the loss of 1/4 of your drive power and the sudden disproportionate power is going to make that tank horrible to handle. But then again, sluggish handling and some movement is better than none, I guess.

(I make fun of others)11 May 2010 1:57 p.m. PST

The gap in the middle is minimal.

Between the slope up and the slope back down, the treads probably lose 1/7 to 1/6th of their weight-bearing surface area due to it, which I would not call in the least bit minimal.

Tanks can have multiple treads per side to reduce ground pressure, but by layering them laterally, as was done with some of the superheavy tanks (and superheavy tank designs) at the end of WWII, such as the proposed giant German land cruisers.

khurasanminiatures12 May 2010 12:01 p.m. PST

I've had some problem getting this last picture to load (for some reason) but now I've worked it out, so here it is. It shows how big it is comparted to a hand, and the gun elevation.

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artbraune12 May 2010 12:07 p.m. PST

So I guess the next two questions are…

When?
How much?

This and the new Eureka Germans…

khurasanminiatures12 May 2010 12:19 p.m. PST

It's at the casters now, so it should be available within a month. How much will depend on the price tag that it comes to me with from the casters. grin

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