"Guidon of Condé-Dragoons 1779" Topic
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| Fridericus | 02 May 2010 10:00 a.m. PST |
Does anyone know what the standard (guidon) of the French Condé-Dragons in 1779 (or earlier) looked like? I am looking for information aboutit. |
 John the OFM  | 02 May 2010 1:52 p.m. PST |
Try this:
link I would do the blue one in the upper left, just because it looks so gosh-darned cool. Seriously, though, that one with the "son in splendor" is rather generic. |
| John the OFM | 02 May 2010 1:59 p.m. PST |
Ah, try this:
drapeaux.org/Accueil.htm This is one of those sites that always go to the same page when you link it.
Go to "Classement géographique ", "France", "Ancien Régime (jusqu'en 1789)" and then "Dragons".
Condé is not given a separate guidon, so I would go with the generic ones listed. |
| Frederick | 02 May 2010 2:10 p.m. PST |
Well, my friend, you did not ask the easiest question! The Conde Dragoons, which were first formed in 1635 as the Enghien-Dragoons, were named the Conde Cavalerie in 1645 and the Conde Dragoons in 1776 – they were re-named the 2nd Dragoons in 1791 – which I believe is the designation they have retained to this day You might want to try: link |
| Camcleod | 02 May 2010 6:26 p.m. PST |
According to 'Drapeaux et Etandards Du Roi' by Charrie:
Condé in 1776 – Averse: Cramoisi. Semis de fleurs de lys argent. Au cente, les armes des Condé entourées des colliers des ordres du roi. Brodé, frangé argent. Reverse: ventre-de-biche. Semis de fleurs de lys argent. Cliff |
| Arteis | 03 May 2010 12:32 a.m. PST |
My webpage here might be useful. It includes part of a 1771 print specifically showing the Condé flag: link |
| FridericusMaximus | 03 May 2010 6:08 a.m. PST |
I have meanwhile advanced to Maximus!
Thank you all very much! I think I will now get along. By the way, I never ask the easiest questions. (After having done research on ancient Romans for about 25 years, I used to put questions to expert scholars they couldn't answer either). Arteis, I've known your website for a long time, and considered using the funeral pyre on ventre de biche ground for my guidon. I just wanted to make sure. Camleod, the description you gave is very helpful. I will probably follow it.
My attempts in painting figures you will find at:
fg-zinnfiguren.blogspot.com |
| Fridericus | 06 May 2010 4:55 a.m. PST |
Camcleod, Your information about the guidon de Condé-dragon was most helpful. Can you also help with the standard of the Belsunce Dragoons? A detachment of them was also present at Savannah in 1779 and at Yorktown with Saint-Simon's division in 1781. I have only got an illustration of the averse side of the standard at "Zweifarben Tücher" by Friedrich Schirmer, which is not absolutely trustworthy.
Thanks, Fridericus |
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