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16 Apr 2010 9:52 a.m. PST
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Rudysnelson16 Apr 2010 7:01 a.m. PST

Condotiere,

Does it look like Osprey may have rushed the title in order to have something out before the release of the FoG Ren. system?

I wish they would republish some of the older titles that are already out there on the Swedes and Russians.

Daniel S16 Apr 2010 12:46 p.m. PST

Don't think there is much of a rush, IIRC the original osprey statement mentioned late 2010 as the date.

The odd thing is that the artwork already seems to be at least partialy finished, the cover is clearly new work and not an older osprey image that has been reused. So the question is what makes it necessary to delay release until November?

Well if you expect it to be bad then you'll get pleasantly surprised by any good parts wink

Rudysnelson16 Apr 2010 1:42 p.m. PST

All had 2010 release dates.

Daniel I was not referring to the FoG Ren being rushed. Thise have release dates of 9/10 and 11/10.


The 30yrs War cav book is 11-10. So was the Inf rushed? Having been through the Osprey submission process, I do not think so. Just having a guy mentioned in the book and not listed as the primary author does not measure how much input that they have. Especially when it comes to hard data facts.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx04 Sep 2010 10:39 a.m. PST

Just to explain on this, all I do for Vlado is tidy up his English, as it cuts down the word count, and only add anything I happen to have (such as bits from Dolleczek on flags and weapons sizes). I don't know much about the period, so I come at it as a novice really, which means I can make suggestions on layout or ask for more definitions etc. but I am not presuming to tell Vlado what to write in his book. He has taken on board what was said about the first book and the second one is running according to its normal schedule. These books are wanted obviously, so guys, give him a break as he has bothered to write them.

Sergio04 Sep 2010 2:10 p.m. PST

Mr. Hollins,

I hope to see, sooner or later, a book on Austrian Imperial Armies from 1650 to 1740! :)

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx06 Sep 2010 12:42 p.m. PST

I suggested to Romain Baulesch that he could do it!

Sergio07 Sep 2010 2:05 p.m. PST

And what "Osprey" said?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx11 Sep 2010 5:09 a.m. PST

Romain didn't think he had the knowledge, so it hasn't been formally offered to Osprey.

1stJaeger12 Dec 2010 7:01 a.m. PST

Just become aware of this thread!

I think we are all looking for a good book giving nice coverage of the a.m. period, but I am also aware of the fact that I'm not the real expert for it.
That means a lot more time to invest in combing the primary sources, which I don't have presently.

It is not easy to write about the imperial army in its early days, as regulations were sketchy at best, and authors have to rely on "comments" quite often.

Most guys courageous enough to try and tackle the task end up "skinned alive", and I would second Dave if he asks not to be too harsh.

Very few Osprey titles can claim to be "perfect" (brackets intentional as I know perfection to be out of this world), and I don't think they are aiming at such a goal at all. Of course I'm not suggesting that "anything goes" either, but periods poorly covered with evidence should generally deserve a little more leniency IMHO.

I am aware that I'm listed in the acknowledgements for critical reading, and I succeeded in "disarming" a few highly controversial issues, but Vlado was also operating from sources I didn't have, and is thus perfectly entitled to his views and opinions as he is the author.

Given the difficulty of the task (often fragmentary information, language problems and Osprey limitations) I can only admire the courage of people who venture into this.

Now I can find people who denigrate Vlado's books in comparison to Breszinski's, while Richard was heavily bashed for his books before. Needless to point out that in general the swedish side is even better documented.

I certainly won't say that everything is just fine in Vlado's books, but the basic information is mainly correct, and constructive critics are helping to clarify the minor errors.

While this MAA might not be worth buying for some, this goes for nearly all Osprey titles, doesn't it.

For someone starting off on the period, it provides a basis upon which each and everyone can enlarge his knowledge if he deems it interesting enough or necessary.

Cheers

Romain

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx14 Dec 2010 1:27 p.m. PST

No reviews yet? Nothing on Amazon either.

Sergio29 Dec 2010 8:42 a.m. PST

I've got the same question. What about this title?

Kadrinazi30 Dec 2010 8:47 a.m. PST

There are already some comments on TAG forum:
link

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx17 Feb 2011 9:04 a.m. PST

Just an update for Sergio – I ran the idea of two books on the Imperial Army 1683-1740 past Osprey. I am afraid the answer is that they are only going to produce dead certs these days, especially limited to ones likely to appeal to the US. Hence the one volume on Marlborough's Army is now 30 years old, while the only recent 18th century book is a third one on American indians. I don't think it is worth pursuing.

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