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Number610 Apr 2010 2:10 p.m. PST
Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2010 2:24 p.m. PST

That's cool. (Literally!)

Timbo W10 Apr 2010 2:55 p.m. PST

Project Habbakuk, classic mad science WW2-style!!

here's the Wiki link

IIRC Churchill tried out pykrete in his bath :-)

How to game it? Well I guess a big slab of white-ish expanded polystyrene with flak guns and 1/300 planes attacking and defending.

Phil1965 Inactive Member10 Apr 2010 3:23 p.m. PST

An old Miniature Wargaming had an article on Habbakuk, it was quite interesting, it even had a guide to making a wargame version!

Battle Works Studios Inactive Member10 Apr 2010 3:35 p.m. PST

There was a very silly PS2 game (Naval War Commander, maybe?) that had one of those as a boss. The easy way to kill it was to design a ship with multiple naval flamethrower cannons(!) as the main weapons. It didn't like being on fire much.

The same game eventually gave you a wave motion gun as a design option, which was a bit over the top for a game theoretically based on WW2.

Happy Little Trees10 Apr 2010 4:01 p.m. PST

There's an episode of Mythbusters all about this.

Lentulus10 Apr 2010 4:07 p.m. PST

I would say an economics game in which you attack your opponent with insane-but-just-barely plausible weapons ideas might work.

Allen5710 Apr 2010 4:27 p.m. PST

Mythbusters is to science as I am to sex stud.

TheCaptainGeneral10 Apr 2010 4:49 p.m. PST

link

Here is a 1:6000 scale Habbakuk

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member10 Apr 2010 5:31 p.m. PST

Quite a bit out there on the subject. David Manley even wrote up the stats for this theoretical class of ship for VaS. Robert

link
project-habbakuk.blogspot.com

1/700 HMS HABBAKUK pykrete aircraft carrier (1943)
link

Mythbusters episode with Pykrete
link

Palafox Inactive Member10 Apr 2010 5:54 p.m. PST

How would the germans have reacted to that?.

I imagine a classic german mad doctor chatting with some classic general (SS of course) called Grüebbenhaüte with a monocle and a small classic gestapo guy with glasses and black hat and coat.

"Do not worry Herr Generral, superior German mind find perfect solution to ice-ship menace. We build two gigantic hairdryers and place in Narvik and Brest. Puny Englanders never be able to come close to great Reich, Jawhol!"

Another Account Deleted Inactive Member10 Apr 2010 6:28 p.m. PST

Mythbusters is to science as I am to sex stud.


Fabio? Is that you?

Dravi7412 Apr 2010 5:50 a.m. PST

Seen the Mythbusters episode. They made a speedboat out of a modified pykrete. Used newspapers instead of the sawdust. Worked surprisingly well, although I still wouldn't want to use it in place of steel armour and a hull that won't melt.

wminsing Supporting Member of TMP12 Apr 2010 7:46 a.m. PST

although I still wouldn't want to use it in place of steel armour and a hull that won't melt.

But patching a hole in ice armor would be a snap and the ship was intended for the North Atlantic so I don't think melting was too big a problem!

-Will

Rod Robertson Inactive Member12 Apr 2010 11:48 a.m. PST

My father worked for a time on this project with the National Research Council in Canada. The project was a serious under-taking and they even made test mini-Habbakuks in some lakes up north. The key to the project's success was developing a Pykrete which would stand up to the salt water; a key which as far as I know eluded them. Eventually he was transfered to developing plywood for use in high-speed airplanes – like the mosquito and flame-thrower propellants. Incidently mom worked on bio-weapons just after the war! No wonder that I have this morbid fascination with wargames!
Rod Robertson.

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