Number6 | 10 Apr 2010 2:10 p.m. PST |
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Parzival | 10 Apr 2010 2:24 p.m. PST |
That's cool. (Literally!) |
Timbo W | 10 Apr 2010 2:55 p.m. PST |
Project Habbakuk, classic mad science WW2-style!! here's the Wiki link IIRC Churchill tried out pykrete in his bath :-) How to game it? Well I guess a big slab of white-ish expanded polystyrene with flak guns and 1/300 planes attacking and defending. |
Phil1965 | 10 Apr 2010 3:23 p.m. PST |
An old Miniature Wargaming had an article on Habbakuk, it was quite interesting, it even had a guide to making a wargame version! |
Battle Works Studios | 10 Apr 2010 3:35 p.m. PST |
There was a very silly PS2 game (Naval War Commander, maybe?) that had one of those as a boss. The easy way to kill it was to design a ship with multiple naval flamethrower cannons(!) as the main weapons. It didn't like being on fire much. The same game eventually gave you a wave motion gun as a design option, which was a bit over the top for a game theoretically based on WW2. |
Happy Little Trees | 10 Apr 2010 4:01 p.m. PST |
There's an episode of Mythbusters all about this. |
Lentulus | 10 Apr 2010 4:07 p.m. PST |
I would say an economics game in which you attack your opponent with insane-but-just-barely plausible weapons ideas might work. |
Allen57 | 10 Apr 2010 4:27 p.m. PST |
Mythbusters is to science as I am to sex stud. |
TheCaptainGeneral | 10 Apr 2010 4:49 p.m. PST |
link Here is a 1:6000 scale Habbakuk |
Kaoschallenged | 10 Apr 2010 5:31 p.m. PST |
Quite a bit out there on the subject. David Manley even wrote up the stats for this theoretical class of ship for VaS. Robert link project-habbakuk.blogspot.com 1/700 HMS HABBAKUK pykrete aircraft carrier (1943) link Mythbusters episode with Pykrete link |
Palafox | 10 Apr 2010 5:54 p.m. PST |
How would the germans have reacted to that?. I imagine a classic german mad doctor chatting with some classic general (SS of course) called Grüebbenhaüte with a monocle and a small classic gestapo guy with glasses and black hat and coat. "Do not worry Herr Generral, superior German mind find perfect solution to ice-ship menace. We build two gigantic hairdryers and place in Narvik and Brest. Puny Englanders never be able to come close to great Reich, Jawhol!" |
Another Account Deleted | 10 Apr 2010 6:28 p.m. PST |
Mythbusters is to science as I am to sex stud. Fabio? Is that you?
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Dravi74 | 12 Apr 2010 5:50 a.m. PST |
Seen the Mythbusters episode. They made a speedboat out of a modified pykrete. Used newspapers instead of the sawdust. Worked surprisingly well, although I still wouldn't want to use it in place of steel armour and a hull that won't melt. |
wminsing | 12 Apr 2010 7:46 a.m. PST |
although I still wouldn't want to use it in place of steel armour and a hull that won't melt. But patching a hole in ice armor would be a snap and the ship was intended for the North Atlantic so I don't think melting was too big a problem! -Will |
Rod Robertson | 12 Apr 2010 11:48 a.m. PST |
My father worked for a time on this project with the National Research Council in Canada. The project was a serious under-taking and they even made test mini-Habbakuks in some lakes up north. The key to the project's success was developing a Pykrete which would stand up to the salt water; a key which as far as I know eluded them. Eventually he was transfered to developing plywood for use in high-speed airplanes – like the mosquito and flame-thrower propellants. Incidently mom worked on bio-weapons just after the war! No wonder that I have this morbid fascination with wargames! Rod Robertson. |