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Cacique Caribe03 Apr 2010 8:24 a.m. PST

This will sound a bit weird to many . . .

What I'm really trying to find out is if there are any well-maintained stone forts at an elevation of 100mm (328 feet) or higher:

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I know this may include some pre and post Civil War forts, but I figured that a lot of ACW fans would probably know these things.

Anyone know where there might be an online map of all US forts?

Thanks guys.

Dan
TMP link

aecurtis Fezian03 Apr 2010 8:34 a.m. PST

Fort Ticonderoga would not be flooded.

Allen

Cacique Caribe03 Apr 2010 8:37 a.m. PST

Wow. And Ticonderoga is definitely well-maintained:

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The right height? Says elevation: 194 feet above sea level.

Thanks.

Dan

aecurtis Fezian03 Apr 2010 8:42 a.m. PST

Your first image link isn't working for me, but his lower-resolution version does:

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You don't want to be occupying Fort T. for survival, Dan. there are ghosts there…

Allen

Cacique Caribe03 Apr 2010 8:45 a.m. PST

Ghosts? LOL. Good to know.*

Thanks, Allen.

Dan
* Are you sure you don't mean all the re-enactors? :)

aecurtis Fezian03 Apr 2010 8:52 a.m. PST

Nope, that won't work; I was going by a diffeent elevation. The USGS spot elevation right at the fort is 193 feet:

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So the fort would be under water.

Allen

aecurtis Fezian03 Apr 2010 8:58 a.m. PST

This may be a good resource in tracking down a safe refuge:

northamericanforts.com

Allen

Dances with Clydesdales03 Apr 2010 9:42 a.m. PST

Check out Fort Frederick in MD.

Sargonarhes03 Apr 2010 9:54 a.m. PST

There's Fort Frederick just west of Hagertown, MD. It's an old stone fort that's been there since the French Indian War and was used as an outpost in the Civil War.
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It's like a hidden treasure because it seems to me not many people know about it there. And the C & O Canal still has some locks on it.
Been there myself. The interior rampart is mostly gone except for a small section of it, they should rebuild it for show.

I see Dances with Clydesdale knows of it as well.

aecurtis Fezian03 Apr 2010 10:00 a.m. PST

Fort Frederick looks good; it's above the 480 foot contour line.

Allen

Ryan T03 Apr 2010 10:03 a.m. PST

Quebec City still has its fortifications in place and its elevation is given as 175 M. In Manitoba Lower Fort Garry is still standing and further south St Paul MN has reconstructed Fort Snelling. All of these are of stone construction.

Cosmic Reset03 Apr 2010 10:38 a.m. PST

Fort Niagra at around 270 ft.

Sargonarhes03 Apr 2010 10:44 a.m. PST

You know I almost forgot about Fort Erie on the Canadian side of the mouth of the Niagara river where lake Erie meets. It's still there and being so far inland and on the Great Lakes, it's well above the altitude you want.

And near by Fort Niagara in Canada is Fort George.

I know these aren't in the US, but they are on the North American continent.

blackscribe03 Apr 2010 11:06 a.m. PST

Don't forget the occasional nutjob that decided to build a castle.

The G Dog Fezian03 Apr 2010 11:13 a.m. PST

I'll toss out Fort Ruger in Diamond Head, Hawaii. Sure, its volcanic crater, but after the flood you end up with a crescent shaped rim that's still above water.

Also,it has some interesting structures from its days as the primary fire control center for the coast artillery. Concrete bunkers and tunnels dot the landscape. Really dug into the hills.

Lastly, its in Hawaii.

jdpintex03 Apr 2010 7:31 p.m. PST

Considering that most forts protected harbors and rivers, it's going to be extremely difficult to find an old fort that is located above a 100m contour line.

War Monkey03 Apr 2010 9:58 p.m. PST

Fort Snelling Minnesota, the plus for it is when the water rises it will still be useful, why because on all those flood map Minnesota will still be high and dry. LOL mnhs.org/places/sites/hfs

Doug
P.S. I live in Minnesota (snicker snicker)

Cacique Caribe04 Apr 2010 3:35 a.m. PST

Doug,

You lucky dawg you.

Dan

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Apr 2010 4:09 a.m. PST

I assume you are planning to write a story or make a game scenario about after all the ice has melted and the oceans have risen a hundred meters? :)

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2010 11:57 a.m. PST

Fort Knox in Maine is 420 feet above sea level – and is (or at least was) very well maintained

fortknox.maineguide.com

Cacique Caribe04 Apr 2010 12:25 p.m. PST

Frederick,

Wow. Very nice:

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Thanks!

Dan

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2010 4:38 p.m. PST

Dan – no problem! I have been there – it's a great place, a little off the beaten path, all stone, as noted was well kept up – would be a great place to hole up come the Apocalypse!

Cacique Caribe04 Apr 2010 6:46 p.m. PST

"would be a great place to hole up come the Apocalypse!"

LOL. I can just imagine modern US troops taking it over as one of the final bastions of humanity.

Dan
TMP link

BF Mark06 Apr 2010 6:29 a.m. PST

Two forts that I have visited, are well preserved, and I've enjoyed are Fort Henry, Ontario, and Fort Mackinac, Michigan.

Mark

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