"Diversion: Triploli (Barbary) gaming" Topic

I'll be damned if I am not intrigued to the point of buying these beauts:

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Re read "Jefferson's War", and this will be a diversion from DA, Sudan and Colonial/modern horror in 15mm

Gotta do it.

Anyone game Barbary Pirates?

What rules, what other figures?

What terrain?

I assume my 15mm Sudan/desert Colonial stuff will work? Think these guys can be used in later periods? Pirate types in DA or Sudan late 1800's?

I know GFI makes three sets of Barbary pirates, anyone have pics?

In 15mm Old Glory did some U.S. soldiers for the War of 1812…Foundry has some in 28mm…

As far as rules, the real challenge is finding rules that give a good feel for galleys AND Napoleonic-era frigates…most Napoleonic rulesets focus on ships of the line, and most galley rulesets are for Lepanto-era battles.

So, we want 1812 era Lake Champlain style rules?

Seems to be the same style?

That would probably be pretty good, as long as they could also support frigates…I've always thought that this would be a great setting for the Legends of the High Seas rules, but I don't think the folks in Nottingham have Stephen Decatur near the top of their list of naval heroes…

Thoroughbred also has US Marines and Barbary Pirates in 15mm, along with some ships that would be perfect.
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EDIT: Oops, sorry Smokey. I should have clicked on your link first.

"Prevailing Winds" looks like it might be worth looking at for a ruleset:

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And why wouldn't Decatur be high on their list?

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BTW, I have a story about when Decatur met Tarlington on the streets of London. Hilarious, and it ended in a manner where every American and Brit will say "Cheers".

:)

Smokey,

Are you looking to do the naval actions or the land action?

I've been looking at the naval side of things (mainly the August 3, 1804 action off Tripoli), but I haven't decided on a set of rules yet.

I haven't seen the GFI line of Barbary Pirates, but their figures from the Napoleonic/War of 1812 lines seem pretty good.

I have a few non-Barbary pirate Thoroughbred figures and they are pretty nice, but I think they will mix with teh GFI-Minifigs figures.

The biggest issue I've had is finding small boats for the action.

This has also got me thinking about doing some War of 1812 actions in the Chesapeake.

Dave

Definately. (1812 actions)

I don't know, both land and sea I think.

Are Thoroughbred big or small 15s?

I would say the Thoroughbred figures are on the bigger side (maybe 17-18mm?). But I still think they could mix well with the GFI-Minifigs stuff.

Any ideas on what you're going to use for ships?

Dave

Looking into it, the Marines were wearing Wayne's Legion uniforms at the time, so what you want are actually Wayne's Legion in 15mm, but I don't see anyone with those--25mm, yes, but not 15mm…perhaps someone knows more than I…

Those ships look pretty darned good on Thouroughbred's site.

And the cost would be historically accurate for what the real ships cost in the early 1800's. :O

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I think Prevailing Winds would work well for the rules, but you will need to come up with your own ship stats, and possibly modify the sailing ability chart a little, to permit sailing closer to the wind (not really sure about that).

See my posting for PW on TMP for vessel point values.

from TMP 4/19/08 Link on bottom

"Here you go…enjoy:
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Several years ago, I had posted quite a few Minifig pics on their old web page covering quite a few eras.
Greg P.
Tucson, AZ"

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Gene,

Thanks for the link to Greg's stuff. That is helpful to me.

I'd still like to find some smaller gunboat kits. I've been looking at the Sailpower Pirate Pinnace ( link scroll about halfway down the page ) and thinking about scratch-building some boats. But it would be nice to see some other stuff too.

Davew

Old Glory has some smaller vessels that might work.

Greg, thanks.

Those Minifigs look fine. I assume GFI still has there usual standard of great customer service? (I miss Tom, but expect the new guy is good as well?)

I might start with a land incursion, I have a lot of dockside and port buildings for Colonial ready to go. These guys first appearance may be in Darkest Africa/Sudan.

History be damned, I like 'em, and will find a use for them!

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Oh yeah! Throuroughbred figs just arrived.

They look GREAT!

Arab slavers, whatever, they are winners!

"History be damned, I like 'em, and will find a use for them!"

Smokey, bring them here:

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YouTube link

Dan

You know they are heading there!

What's up, CC?

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Smokey,

You might want to take a look at the Away, Boarders! rules recently used at the SYW convention:

warartisan.com/rules

Also look in Gallery 1 on this site for more pictures of games.

There is a picture of the game just over half way down this blog posting from Der Alte Fritz:

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I've only downloaded the rules the other day and skimmed through them. Later I'll give them a try using my Pirates of the Caribbean plastic ships.

Jim

What Pirates of the carribeean plastic ships?

Those movie toys you picked up a while back on the cheap?

Yeah baby, I forgot all about those.

BTW, Top Gun Ace, you reminded me of my line I used to give to girls when I would take them fishing/boating:

"Call me Captain Longfellow, and climb aboard my vessel for the ride of your life! Arggg!"

Yes, "Lame!" was usually the response. :(

:)

Smokey, We've used "Limeys & Slimeys" for years and have had great success! They are perfect for 15mm but we've used them for 25's as well. For any land portion we've used TSATF, but you can keep boarding action only games strictly to L. & S. if you want. They are fast simply, bloody, and fun!!!

Cheers,

JB

TSATF Pirates
The Sword in the Caribbean
Pirate Forays along the Spanish Main/West Indies 1700's
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lol JBaumel, I was planning to use them first in SATF Sudan Darkest Africa ( basically seafaring Islamic slavers like Zanzibari's) and try the boat to boat, boat to shore battles with the TSATF)

I have played Limeys and Slimeys, matter of fact, I think it was a Barbary version (I'll find out from Ray?)

How are you? How's the little one? Like 16 months old right?

Thanks Lori, i will check that out. I always just used colonial gunboat SATF, and loom forward to seeing some specific pirate rules.

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As there really are not suitable figures in 15mm for Derna (Shores of Tripoli, William Eaton, Presley O'Bannon) and I going to use the Thoroughbred figs for some shore actions in the later Second Barbary War. Some blog posts:

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One of the posts rates the two sides using Force on Force, but I've recently picked up One Hour Skirmish Wargaming and might give that a try. Simple enough, with the ability to give abilities to figures.