isttexas | 31 Mar 2010 6:40 a.m. PST |
Does anyone have pictures of a Russian ammunition or artillery caisson? I have pictures of the 3-horse ammunition cart and limber but not the caisson. Russian or period/primary "sources" would be preferable. Any help is appreciated! |
summerfield | 31 Mar 2010 6:58 a.m. PST |
Dear Sir The Tsar Paul 4-wheeled ammunition caisson was introduced in 1796 and was obsolete in 1805 with the introduction of the M1805 Arakcheev system. Currently writing a book on the subject. The Ammunition cart was drawn by 2 horses for the Light Artillery and Horse Artillery. For the 12-pdr and half-pud Unicorns by three. This is still a little unclear from the sources. I also would like to find more about this facinating subject. Stephen Stephen |
Greystreak | 31 Mar 2010 7:31 a.m. PST |
Gentlemen, you will find an artist's rendering (O.K Parkhaev) of a caisson at link (Plate 29), and a translation of the original Russian text by Mark Conrad here: link . Hope that helps. |
isttexas | 31 Mar 2010 8:11 a.m. PST |
Thank you Mr. Allen and Mr. Summerfield, That was exactly what I was looking for. Mr. Summerfield any projections as to when your book will be published? Thanks again! |
summerfield | 31 Mar 2010 11:09 a.m. PST |
Dear Sir I would hope that it will be this year but I have already published three books this year. Summerfield (2010) Saxon Artillery 1733-1827, Partizan Press Adye (1813 rp 2010) Bombardier and Pocket Gunner. Ken Trotman Ltd Eduard Lowenstern (May 2010) With Count Pahlen's Cavalry against Napoleon: Memoirs of the Russian General Eduard von Löwenstern (1790-1837), Ken Trotman Publishing [Translated by Dr Victoria Moessner with Dr Stephen Summerfield] Dupin (1820 rp August 2010) Force Militaire of Great Britain, 4 Volumes, Ken Trotman Publishing There has also been 8 papers for NGA Ordnance of artillery plans. Various other things in fire as well. Stephen |
isttexas | 31 Mar 2010 11:23 a.m. PST |
Dear Mr. Summerfield, Thank you for the quick and detailed reply. You have an excellent record as a writer, researcher and technician. Keep up the good work and I hope you are able to publish the Russian book this year. |
summerfield | 31 Mar 2010 1:52 p.m. PST |
Dear Sir Please contact me offline if you wish. It is so difficult explaining things without the pictures. The Russian book needs a publisher and then I can focus my energies upon finishing it. Stephen |
fuzzy bunny | 05 Apr 2010 9:32 a.m. PST |
Sir, this picture might help if it is what you seek. It comes from the Hinchliffe web site, their 25mm line. Will |
summerfield | 05 Apr 2010 10:02 a.m. PST |
Dear Will Certainly something near the Tsar Paul system that was abandomed in 1805 as they were too heavy and clumsy for the Russian Roads. Stephen |
fuzzy bunny | 05 Apr 2010 12:21 p.m. PST |
Stephen, Thank you very much for the clarification. I seem to remember seeing pictures of wagons that resemble "battery wagons" from the American Civil War period drawn by one to three horses in tandem. Does this more closely represent the style adopted during the reformation. I'm sorry I don't remember the source. The only reason I remember it has to do more with the color (apple green) of the illustrated object than anything else. Respectfully, Will |
summerfield | 05 Apr 2010 3:08 p.m. PST |
Dear Will Yes. They could be called a Curricle cart. There were two shafts in a similiar manner to the British limber. Only the 12-pdr and half Pud had three horses. The 6-pdr and quarter pud had two. Stephen |