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Major Mike31 Mar 2010 1:13 p.m. PST

<< Read an article in M1 magazine about the U.S. military trying to get M14's put back in service with units as fast as they can. Something to do with increasing local firepower.>>

I think most war surplus M-14 are gone, sold off to different countries in the 1990's. The Marines managed to keep a limited number in stock.
I remember opening .50 cal ammo in 1983/4 for the M-2 that was made in 1943.

GarrisonMiniatures31 Mar 2010 1:20 p.m. PST

Another DUKW is in use for trips in Hunstanton. (Norfolk coast)

Kaoschallenged31 Mar 2010 1:49 p.m. PST

Another Somali MP44

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And Iraq,

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Yogoslav Paratroops,

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Bosnia,

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Robert

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP31 Mar 2010 2:16 p.m. PST

Geez, for a weapon with a relatively small production run, the Stg 43 sure got around, didn't it? Did anyone keep it in production post-1945?

Cyclops31 Mar 2010 4:09 p.m. PST

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Fairly famous pic of a PPsH in Iraq being used by US forces.
And where do they get the ammo for the StG44 etc? I can understand weapons using common calibres like 9mm, 7.62 etc still being used but the StG44? Have they been rechambered?

Martin From Canada31 Mar 2010 4:31 p.m. PST

I know for a fact that the Canadian Rangers still use the Short Magazine Lee-Enfield because the working parts work in -50°C and the C7's working parts won't.

Thing is… who will get out of a warm APC to fight in -50°?

P.S. C7 is a Canadian made variant of the M16 build under licence by Diemaco.

Kaoschallenged31 Mar 2010 4:58 p.m. PST

"I can understand weapons using common calibres like 9mm, 7.62 etc still being used but the StG44? Have they been rechambered?"

The DDR IIRC sent some MP44s to Iraq. They used them Post-War and manufactured the ammo for them. They probably sent along the ammo too.

Lebanon
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M1 Garand in Iraq

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PPsH

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Madsen

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Norrins01 Apr 2010 4:12 a.m. PST

So based on the evidence, my WW2 partizans could still be useful for modern campaigns. Looks the real mismatches will occur with the hardware – don't think much of the chances an upgraded Sherman would have against an Abrams, Challenger etc!!!

Canuckistan Commander01 Apr 2010 4:27 a.m. PST

M101 in still in service in Canada with new longer barrel and bigger trails. The Old M2s are in storage because they were built using imperial measurements they cannot be converted and will propably become Japanese cars!

CooperSteveOnTheLaptop01 Apr 2010 8:25 a.m. PST

Bet the PPSh is a good bet in dusty Iraqi town fighting. Where the yanks get 'em from, captured in Korea & 'Nam?

jimborex01 Apr 2010 10:29 a.m. PST

I think the real winner here is the US M2 .50 caliber MG. That gun has seen constant service since before WWII and is still first-line issue today. Longevity-wise, I think it'll be hard to beat in this debate.

On a side note, the appearance of those PPSHs is absolutely fascinating to me. I have a hard time believing they're practical, given a probable unreliable source of ammo and other supplies. Perhaps they're just that durable?

Jim

Cyclops02 Apr 2010 1:43 a.m. PST

I think the PPSh in Iraq have been captured from Iraqi insurgents/arms caches and have been found to be quite handy.

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