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Steven H Smith05 Mar 2010 8:25 a.m. PST

Some interesting pictures:

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jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Mar 2010 8:29 a.m. PST

Big Al

where are these from………..?

rather nice!!

Regards

Ged

Steven H Smith05 Mar 2010 9:30 a.m. PST

From a Russian Web site:

militera.lib.ru

They are illustrations in one of the books.


The 3rd illustration is from:

Pototskii's "Istoriia gvardeiskoi artillerii" SPb: 1896:

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Coloured versions of this illustration and another one from the same Pototskii book can be seen here:

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jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Mar 2010 10:04 a.m. PST

thanks for that!!

gjm

Steven H Smith05 Mar 2010 10:10 a.m. PST

As we say in Russian, "No sweatskii!" <;^}

summerfield06 Mar 2010 4:55 a.m. PST

Dear Steven
Certainly very interesting looking at the gun drill that showed the Tsar Paul I uniform that was so Prussian in style.

This is probably from the artillery manual that had originally been produced for his private army. It shows the M1756 Seven Years War artillery pieces as shown by the metal strapping on the wheels.

The article by Lviv (1939) is interesting. Although one of the illustrations you have kindly show is not of the period but of the M1836 system that was used for the Crimean War. Certainly interesting.

Thank you
Stephen

Steven H Smith07 Mar 2010 3:38 p.m. PST

These illustrations are from a book by P. L'vovskii titled "Borodino". For more artillery illustrations see:

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Another illustration from the same L'vovskii work – the original painting is in the Artillery & Engineers Museum in SPb:

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Steven H Smith07 Mar 2010 3:50 p.m. PST

How the camel lost his hump:

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<;^}

Steven H Smith07 Mar 2010 3:55 p.m. PST
LORDGHEE14 Mar 2010 3:35 a.m. PST

Is that sight the gunner is looking through on the gun a tangent sight or an earlier sight

Lord Ghee

Steven H Smith14 Mar 2010 7:01 a.m. PST

It is a removable pendulum sight:

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More Russian guns:

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Chuvak14 Mar 2010 10:17 a.m. PST

More Russian artillery sights.

One of each of these per piece from 1809 – selected for use based on local conditions :

Markovich – Маркович – 1802 – dioptre
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Kabanov – Кабанов – 1808 – pendulum
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Improved pendulum sight :

Bestuzhev – Бестужев – 1835
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Chuvak

Steven H Smith14 Mar 2010 11:40 a.m. PST

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summerfield15 Mar 2010 1:42 a.m. PST

Dear Steven
What is the difference between the M1805 and M1808 Russian carriage?

The M1805 which I have plans have only one trail spike yet I have models from St Petersburg Artillery Museum for two trail spikes. The models possibly date from the 1820s.

Confused
Stephen

Steven H Smith17 Mar 2010 4:56 a.m. PST

Both the Russian artillery models presented ca 1816-18 to Wellington (formerly in the Rotunda Collection) and to Bernadotte ([formerly?] in the Swedish Artillery Museum) are of a known age.

It should be noted that the Rotunda models once had horses and harnesses which became lost over time. The Bernadotte set still has these items.

Big Al

summerfield17 Mar 2010 10:31 a.m. PST

Dear Steven
The Rotunda models are no longer available to be viewed. I have photographs of these but these are heavy ordnance rather than field ordnance. I was not aware of the models in the Swedish Artillery Museum. The Rotunda models date from 1815 and were presents to the Duke of Wellington and presented to the Rotunda in the 1830s when he almost ruined British Ordnance. A great general with no grasp of technical subjects.

Thanks
Stephen

Steven H Smith17 Mar 2010 5:30 p.m. PST

"… these are heavy ordnance rather than field ordnance."

That is incorrect.

The Rotunda collection of Russian models cover the entire M. 1805 from pop guns to the 5 pud mortar, plus all of the ancillery vehicles. I have held these models in my own hands, when they had been moved to the storage sheds behind the Rotunda building.

summerfield18 Mar 2010 1:38 a.m. PST

Dear Steven
That was all that was on display at the time of the visit 15 years ago. Alas the Rotunda and these models have not been accessible for the last ten years.

Stephen

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