Snort the Orc | 10 Mar 2004 9:25 a.m. PST |
What if someone made a banner that said something like "Boycott New Wave", and then we got websites to post the banner at their sites? That would get the word out about New Wave. |
Xenophonii | 10 Mar 2004 9:38 a.m. PST |
Hmmmm... could all too easily land one in court... Whether true or not, they could claim slander. Then it is up to the sponsor and sites to prove their alligations true. |
PeteMurray | 10 Mar 2004 9:45 a.m. PST |
I'm not a big fan of slippery-slope argument, but this does seem like a prime example of bad precedent. With my prognostication helmet on, I can see too many examples of "Join the BitterExCompanyFan Yahoo! group today!" The prognostication helmet also gives me an unmodified +1 to my Dodge checks. |
Jay Arnold | 10 Mar 2004 10:13 a.m. PST |
Actually, it would be libel, since it's written, not spoken (minor, pedantic point). In libel cases, the plaintiff has to prove the defendent knew that any statements being made were false AND the defendent intended to do harm. Only one of the above requirements is met. Additionally, boycotts are perfectly legal (at least in the U.S.) and I'm sure there are plenty of people with documentation to back up the claims a boycott host group would make. There is a long history of letter-writing campaigns, boycotts an other consumer advocacy activities in the US. No reason to not continue it in this case.
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ttauri | 10 Mar 2004 10:59 a.m. PST |
How does anyone in the US end up buying from New Wave? From my UK view every web site warns of them about once a fortnight and those warnings have been running for years. Since you need net access to order from the buggers surely prospective New Wave customers see all the horror stories on every gaming related web site? Surely New Wave are running out of new comers to fleece? Or is there just an endless supply of the unaware for them to prey on. The good UK traders rely on word of mouth and positive messages on boards like these. How can New Wave stay afloat? Oh wait-obviously they don't need to stock anything and never pay for any postage. |
Artemis | 10 Mar 2004 12:46 p.m. PST |
"How does anyone in the US end up buying from New Wave?" At a guess I'd say that while their percentage of customers ripped off is high it's still just a percentage. Take a look at Ebay for the exact same thing. Someone with 80% positive feedback and 2000 feedbacks may have ripped off 400 people but has 1600 repeat customers. Same principle I would have thought, the hundreds who complain don't order again, the thousands who don't complain do order again. To the best of my knowledge the percentage chance of being screwed over by NW is directly related to the lines you order from them also so everyone who orders lines they actually do have a full good stock of will be happy repeat customers. You're unlikely to change those people's minds with a banner campaign. |
Nukuhiva | 10 Mar 2004 4:08 p.m. PST |
Artemis has it exactly right. There's a new one born every day, an Interstate reststop in the middle of nowhere can charge whatever they want for gas..... Same goes for New Wave and other companies successfully portraying themselves as 'your only source' for whatever. |
Sororitas | 11 Mar 2004 5:11 p.m. PST |
Remember to boycott Dakkon0_0 on Ebay as well that's the New-Wave E-bay affiliate, I've heard so many ideas at getting back at these folks or person, I still think the best way is word-of-mouth. |
Gantalf | 12 Mar 2004 1:54 p.m. PST |
Forget it, folks ! Our experience is to have said that someone did imitations of our mini. The result was a court battle (slander vs imitations). We spent a lot of money to prove we were right and to stop imitations ! So, forget it !
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King Guig | 01 Apr 2004 10:21 p.m. PST |
Actually, baners voicing opinions of experiences with New Wave would be completely legal and in good taste. I cant be sued for saying I had a horrible experience with new wave and came away frustrated, mad as hell, ripped off from making 12 long distance calls to answering machines regardless of the listed business hours of their company, sent 30 plus emails without answer, until finally 2 months later, they call after being threatened to get my money back, and say, well we just ordered it. @ months later still nothing, until ya have to call credit card company and get your money back. |
King Guig | 01 Apr 2004 10:22 p.m. PST |
Actually, baners voicing opinions of experiences with New Wave would be completely legal and in good taste. I cant be sued for saying I had a horrible experience with new wave and came away frustrated, mad as hell, ripped off from making 12 long distance calls to answering machines regardless of the listed business hours of their company, sent 30 plus emails without answer, until finally 2 months later, they call after being threatened to get my money back, and say, well we just ordered it. 2 months later still nothing, until ya have to call credit card company and get your money back. |
ToxWeb | 15 Apr 2004 7:28 a.m. PST |
After looking around on the 'net for a while, I found the Better Business Bureau listing for New Wave, which states ( SURPRISE! ) that New Wave has an unsatisfactory record. If you want to see it, go to atlanta.bbb.org then click on "Company Reports". Put "New Wave" in the Company Name box, and click the submit button. I would imagine the number of people who have actually complained about New Wave to the BBB is actually just the tip of the iceberg. If YOU have been ripped off by them, report it to the BBB. It might help you get your merchandise, and it will pile up additional statistics that would be helpful in convincing other websites to quit linking and refering customers to New Wave. |