| HesseCassel | 30 Jan 2010 3:13 p.m. PST |
I'm looking for these fellows for my 15mm Luftwaffe FeldKompanie. Altho they pretty much have the stats of a 12cm mortar and I guess I could just use those models, I'd love to get my hands on four of these. It's a strange looking contraption that has the wheels / carriage permanantly attached.
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| tuscaloosa | 30 Jan 2010 3:56 p.m. PST |
Neat, never saw it before. Looks like the German equivalent of the Soviet 160mm mortar. |
| HesseCassel | 30 Jan 2010 5:20 p.m. PST |
at the moment, my best scratch-build is using the BF German heavy mortars GE 711
link With the Peter Pig minenwerfer from their WWI Range 16:
peterpig.co.uk/range16.htm Not only with the figs do double-duty as a regular hvy mortar platoon, but the little wheeled contraption can get glued to the front of the PP Minenwerfer giving a pretty good approximation of the strange contraption. No more silly than playing Luftwaffe in general, I guess. :) |
aecurtis  | 30 Jan 2010 5:26 p.m. PST |
I seem to recall that the PP minenwerfer is quite small compared to the 10cm NbW40. Without going out to te garage to double-check, it's a wee thing. Allen |
| HesseCassel | 30 Jan 2010 5:58 p.m. PST |
You have a 10cm NbW40 in your garage?? I guess it keeps the neighbor's kids off your lawn… Seriously, maybe adding some length to the barrel would help? Any other scratch-build suggestions? |
| aecurtis | 30 Jan 2010 6:11 p.m. PST |
These may help; it's a big sucker: link link Allen |
| WarHighlander | 30 Jan 2010 7:25 p.m. PST |
Meh, I would just use the French 75mm mle 1897 guns. Much easier to model. |
| aecurtis | 30 Jan 2010 9:10 p.m. PST |
This is for a list in "Ostfront" or "!astern Front", I assume? In "Ostfront", they could only have the mortars or the 7.5cm GebK 15, which, as the Skoda, is available from True North, now Old Glory, and is a very nice model. (BF wanted you to use the 7.5cm infantry gun as a stand-in.) Is the French 75 in one of the Normandy supplements for the Luftwaffe, or was that added in "Eastern Front"? The PDF for the 16th Luftwaffe Felddivision in Normandy provides the Soviet 76.2mm and 122mm, which are nice. Allen |
| tuscaloosa | 31 Jan 2010 12:35 a.m. PST |
"Seriously, maybe adding some length to the barrel would help?" I get spam offering that all the time. |
| Fred Cartwright | 31 Jan 2010 12:17 p.m. PST |
These may help; it's a big sucker: The wheels look like they might be the same as the 37mm Pak 36. Which would make it a big beast indeed. |
| Lion in the Stars | 31 Jan 2010 12:36 p.m. PST |
Check battlefront's midwar FJ mortar platoon, it has both the long 8cm mortars (GW34?) and the 10.5cm NbWs, but not enough crew for both. [edit] hrm… the FJ mortars are the NbW35, but you might be able to use that barrel on the Peter Pig chassis. |
| aecurtis | 31 Jan 2010 1:13 p.m. PST |
Too short a tube: 1.34 m. compared to 1.72 m.: over a foot difference, I'm afraid. Allen |
| WarHighlander | 01 Feb 2010 10:51 a.m. PST |
Is the French 75 in one of the Normandy supplements for the Luftwaffe, or was that added in "Eastern Front"? The PDF for the 16th Luftwaffe Felddivision in Normandy provides the Soviet 76.2mm and 122mm, which are nice.Allen There is a full Luftwaffe Feldkompanie briefing in the Eastern Front book, including the French 75mm guns. |
| Lion in the Stars | 01 Feb 2010 11:02 a.m. PST |
Jeez, what a beast… I'll take my 10.5cm NbW35s, thanks. While a cool piece for gaming, I'd hate to deploy one operationally. Even the 12cm mortars 'acquired' from the Russians weren't that big! Too short a tube: 1.34 m. compared to 1.72 m.: over a foot difference, I'm afraid. I dunno, might be able to make the Battlefront barrel work. You're talking about a difference of 4mm on the model, I can fake that with a bit of plasticard. It may be easier to just use a piece of 2mm dia tubing, though. In either case, those FJ mortar platoons are nice for parts. |
| aecurtis | 01 Feb 2010 11:08 a.m. PST |
OK, that's new, then. They finally added the post-Army takeover changes. I've had the PaK 97/38s set aside for that, in hopes that they finally got it right. But as for "Eastern Front": I'm waiting for the errata before I order…  |
| WarHighlander | 01 Feb 2010 8:07 p.m. PST |
Yeah you can either take a Luftwaffe Assault Gun Platoon, or a LW Anti-tank Gun Platoon with 5cm PaK38, 7.5cm PaK97/38, 7.62cm PaK36(r), or 7.5cm PaK40. |
| aecurtis | 02 Feb 2010 2:38 a.m. PST |
OK, but that's an antitank platoon, from the divisional PzJg battalion (as were the StuGs). How about the artillery? After the Army took over, the divisional artillery regiment replaced its mortars and mountain guns in the light battalions with the Pak 97/38, and with a variety of foreign weapons in the heavy battalion. Thanks, Allen |
| HesseCassel | 02 Feb 2010 9:21 a.m. PST |
In the new Eastern Front you can get three line items for artillery. Two choices are basically the 3+ AT / 6+ FP that all 75mm mountain or light infantry guns have, the only difference is smoke, etc. The third is the heavy mortar option, again two types that play/cost the same. One is the strange chemical mortar I want to show on the table. Personally, I don't care if BF always gets it right, I just use the models I like/want/are historical with the stats I have to dictated by the rules. |
