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Personal logo Whirlwind Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2010 2:43 a.m. PST

Steven H Smith is currently finding out some fascinating stuff about the 1806 operations of the Sicilian Army TMP link .Does anyone know what uniforms Sicilian troops would have worn at this time? The stuff here on TMP and on the Napoleon Series so far seems only to deal with the post-reorganization (1808?) army.

Thanks in advance

Lou from BSM17 Jan 2010 8:17 a.m. PST

From the Osprey MAA 335:

The Sicilian Regt (raised in 1806) was uniformed and equipped as a British light regiment (Stovepipe).

Later Italian units from the Italian Levy of 1812-1825 were very similar in appearance to Portuguese units. Stands to reason as the British used the Blue uniform to equip allied contingents. I would just use Portugeues figures in this case.

Hope it helps…

Steven H Smith17 Jan 2010 10:03 a.m. PST

WW,

I was in error. The book

"L'Esercito Borbonico dal 1789 al 1815" by Giancarlo Boeri & Piero Crociani

does concern Naples.

Sorry for the error.

Big Al

Personal logo Whirlwind Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2010 11:02 a.m. PST

Thanks Lou. I have that particular Osprey and there are enough snippets on the web to do Sicilian forces after the British intervention. There doesn't appear to be anything in English detailing this earlier period unfortunately.

Big Al, many thanks again for your tremendous work on this. Off to the library and the local specialist bookshop tomorrow to try and track down a copy…

I wonder if any of the Italian members of TMP have any information on this?

Regards

Steven H Smith17 Jan 2010 1:13 p.m. PST

It would appear that this set contains some of the uniforms:

The Vinkhuijzen collection of military uniforms > Italy > Italy. Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, 1807:

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aecurtis Fezian17 Jan 2010 1:42 p.m. PST

Good find. I seem to recall that long ago, someone exploited those plates for an article in "Empires, Eagles, and Lions", as I had set aside some strips of Minifigs 15mm Bavarians to do them. With boxes upon boxes of EE&L in storage, I don't think I'd find it easily.

Allen

Personal logo Whirlwind Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2010 10:46 p.m. PST

Thanks very much Steven.

Allen, did you reckon that Bavarians were the 'closest fit' to the troops there, as opposed to Austrians or Wurtembergers say, or was 15mm Bavarians what you had spare at the time?

Does anyone else have that E,E&L article handy?

Regards

aecurtis Fezian18 Jan 2010 10:05 a.m. PST

I suppose it's fair to say that at the time, 15mm "strip" Minifigs were not so detailed that a great many evils could not be concealed with a coat of paint. At the time, there were no 15mm Wurttembergers. Austrians in kasket weren't made by Heritage yet, so it was a choice of tall or crouching Ral Partha models. The Sicilian helmet looked closest to the Minifigs Bavarian version, if not perfect. I used strip Minifigs to stand in for a lot of things they weren't meant for.

The EE&L article was probably just drawings (by Mike Gilbert?) with perhaps speculative unit IDs; nothing comprehensive. No OOBs that I recall… (but it's been nearly 30 years!)

Allen

rmaker18 Jan 2010 10:51 a.m. PST

Another possibility would be late Ancien Regime/early Revolutionary French regulars. They had a low helmet with a fur crest. Historifigs makes them in true 25mm. I presume somebody must in 15mm.

spmac120 Mar 2010 8:24 p.m. PST

I believe for the 1806 campaign, the Bourbon Neapolitan army wore a form of the Korsehut hat for their infantry headdress, and the early bicorn on their cavalry. I believe they adopted a tarleton type helmet for their light infantry battalions late 1806 to 1807 (after the battle of Campo Tenese).

Paul

MarescialloDiCampo25 Mar 2010 5:42 p.m. PST

A few uniforms are in this article period stated 1802/1806 from this site on the Bourbons.

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MarescialloDiCampo25 Mar 2010 5:49 p.m. PST

Another link with some info:

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