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31 Jul 2025 10:31 a.m. PST
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  • Changed title from "Naval Battles ECW & Trafalgar Rules" to "Naval Battles ECW & Trafalgar Rules?"Crossposted to Age of Sail board

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bjporter05 Jan 2010 1:02 p.m. PST

Can anyone point me to more information about naval battles during the English Civil War?

I know that most of the fleet went to parliament, were there any that went with the king?

Are there any resources about this?

And are there any ship stats for the Trafalgar rules that would work?

I know there could be some skirmishes with the Dutch fleets during this time.

Would the ships from the Anglo-Dutch Wars lines work for the ECW time period?

Thanks!

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian05 Jan 2010 1:34 p.m. PST

There is some overlap between ECW and the early Anglo-Dutch wars in terms of ships. In both cases in general the ships were small, non-homogeneous, and inconsistently armed. There were a very few large warships, but most were smallish, 28-40 guns, and a lot were converted merchantmen.

I would think that since the ships are for the most part on the small side, they'd be crowded down into the lower ratings in Trafalgar rules, and there would be little differentiation.

The era itself was a time of growth and change. The last of the galleon-like ships were dying out, whereas most purpose-builts were descendants of larger, less galleonish royal ships, although it is very difficult to trace exact heritages. The English were experimenting with "frigates", which were more along the lines of faster, lower, narrower royal ships, in a sense making them sort of like a re-visit to the race-built galleon thought process.

The smaller ships from the Langton line would work OK, with a sparse few 3-deckers and little in between.

Timbo W05 Jan 2010 2:47 p.m. PST

There was a series of articles in Miniature Wargames many years ago don't know which issues offhand though!

Engagements seem to be single-ship mostly, eg Royalist privateers trying to run past Parlt blockade etc. Often Parlt ships would help out with land operations, eg supply of besieged ports, bombarding enemy strongholds, or landing storming parties.

French Wargame Holidays09 Jan 2010 4:12 a.m. PST

We have used the trafalger rules for the Anglo Dutch wars using Langtoon ships, with a few changes, the largest ships we have are 40 gun 4th and 3rd rates (armed merchantmen)down to 4 gun sloops.

great period for pirate games also.

cheers
matt

138SquadronRAF15 Jan 2010 2:04 p.m. PST

The best rules I found for this were "Captain General at Sea"

link

They are dsign for small scale models 1:6000 work really well. Yes that small.

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