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Cacique Caribe15 Dec 2009 12:20 a.m. PST

Check this out:
YouTube link

And 6:40 minutes into this clip:
YouTube link

Very basic, but cool:
Low mass + high velocity = BIG boom!

Anyone ever tried making miniature model of a rail gun?

Dan

Covert Walrus15 Dec 2009 12:51 a.m. PST

Dan, you can probably find a scale model working rail gun somewhere around the places you live and work; A solenoid is exactly like a rail gun with only one functional difference – the rod is kept from becoming a projectile by limiting it's movement.

And you do not need to have a higher velocity to get advantages in a railgun – the lack of explosive ammunition and adjustable range by varying voltages are two theoritical improvements over conventional guns that 'mass drivers' with standard muzzle velocities have.

Thanks for the links, though – Lots of fun there! :)

AndrewGPaul15 Dec 2009 7:58 a.m. PST

A solenoid is likely to be more like a coilgun than a railgun, to be pedantic about it. :)

In answer to your question, CC, yes:

link

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2009 8:06 a.m. PST

I always thought those UBC guys were a tricky bunch

Cacique Caribe15 Dec 2009 9:26 a.m. PST

I found it interesting that they would use a separatist/rebel lunar colony as an example of a future war.

Dan

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2009 11:21 a.m. PST

I love the God Rod … a Nuc kind thing without the Rads ! evil grin

Cacique Caribe15 Dec 2009 2:47 p.m. PST

I guess it's the same principle behind small asteroids making big explosions . . . like Tunguska:

link

Dan

Covert Walrus15 Dec 2009 3:47 p.m. PST

It's all in the maths – Force equals mass times velocity.

To quote Joe Haldeman – "The (object) was moving at about .99c when it contacted the Tauran battleship . . . At that velocity, it doesn't matter whether you're hit with a Nova bomb or a spitwad. "

Covert Walrus15 Dec 2009 3:50 p.m. PST

Andrew commented -

"A solenoid is likely to be more like a coilgun than a railgun, to be pedantic about it. :)"

To be even more pedantic, a Coil Gun can also be a conventional cannon from the late 19th century, constructed by wrapping hot steel around a form in a coiling motion to make a stronger, lighter weapon than casting one piece barrels and then drilling them out.

But that's another story . . . :)

Lampyridae15 Dec 2009 8:21 p.m. PST

Actual coil guns were also marketed to the US Navy as far back as pre WWI. Can't remember who it was though – Marconi? Unfortunately one of the prototypes blew up at a demonstration, peppering admirals with shrapnel. They were, shall we say, less than impressed.

Lion in the Stars16 Dec 2009 9:54 a.m. PST

CC, you already used a limited coilgun when you started your car this morning: The starter solenoid.

Biggest problem with any electromagnetic accelerator is the amount of juice you need, multiplied by how fast you need it.

Unfortunately one of the prototypes blew up at a demonstration, peppering admirals with shrapnel. They were, shall we say, less than impressed.

Still a problem today. Anything conductive enough to make a decent magnetic field isn't tough enough to survive the stresses. Classic railguns rarely last more than 30 shots before the rails need to be replaced, and there are some magnetic coil designs that intentionally shred themselves in a single pulse.

retzlaffmd16 Dec 2009 11:10 a.m. PST

Coming soon! the sci-fi musket!

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