"Games Workshop to produce WW 2 table top game (20mm)" Topic

Yes it's true,

The plan is to produce the main set / core rules for early next year. Rules will also work for 15mm apparently. Those at Warhammer World who saw the playtest will have noted it bore little similarity to known GW systems (Thank god)

Your thoughts?

WW2 will become a GW trademark and no one will be allowed to play or mention it anymore.

Too late

I PROMISE to spend the same amount of money on it, and the same amount of time playing it, as I do for all of their products.

Eye-yi-yi…

I don't believe it. Not one word.

If you had said that Warhammer Historicals/Forgeworld had decided to do this, I might have fallen for this obvious April 1st/December 15th Fools day joke.

But GW? Rules only? That's not what GW does. They make their money selling minis, not rules.

So no. My thoughts are (since you asked) that you are "mistaken", and of course, by that I mean a liar. Which if I say that preceeded by "With all due respect" then it's considered polite. :-D

So with all due respect A…H…L… you are a liar!

There have been rumours of' WH2K' for years!

Better buy a copy of the December Wargames Illustrated SeattleGamer. Theres a write up about it on page 4.

The rules and army books are being released by Forge World.

It will just be one of many sets already out there.

The Battlefront boys will love them becasue most stores that sell FoW also sell GW!

What's the big deal? GW also sells rules for:

Ancients (5 sets)
Dark Ages (2 different sets)
Medievals
English Civil War
Old West
Plains Wars
The Alamo
Pirates
19th Century Naval
World War 1

So what if they do WW2? It's just another rule set.

Now, if you said they were bringing out a whole range of figures to go with it, that's another story.

Of course, last time this was mentioned was in the pages of White Dwarf more than a year ago so I will remain unconvinced until I see something more concrete.

If it does come out, I'm sure GW will take the same approach that they do to all the games that aren't Warhammer, 40k or Lord of the Rings-- pretending their own product doesn't exist.

A similar thread on this project was posted on TMP several weeks ago.

I will not bother spending money to stock this or their 20mm product line for my store.

Yes, but when will they bring out Early War?

Will Germany be Chaos or Dark Elves?

Ooh, then GW can fight with TSR's assigns over who owns the trademark of Nazi™.

Say it ain't so!

Warhammer Historical has been working on a 20th century ruleset for years now. Called Firefight last I heard.

It's not Firefight. That almost certainly died in March.

"their 20mm product line"

What 20mm product line?

Allen

"I will not bother spending money to stock this or their 20mm product line for my store."

What a shocker, and who cares? Why post when even YOU don't care?

I'll certainly take a look at the rules, and I for one hope they do put out a line of 20mm WW II models, preferably plastic. I bet it would sell!

Why post when even YOU don't care?

Are you kidding? That is the very life's blood of this site!

20mm? Eh….

Just wait a year for the newer version of the rules. Then again, there would be newer, better, shinier rules the year after that, and the year after that, and so on and on and on.

What is a fezian?

Nazis are bright green, right?

How do you lot keep from getting bloody noses, what with the knees suddenly jerking upwards and all?

I am open to GW starting in with WW2. With their market leverage, regardless of whether the rules are good or not, it should still bring more gamers to the period. It is difficult not to prejudge based on experience but GW has produced good rules, Warmaster comes to mind, and has the potential to do so in the future.

Didn't we already have a thread about this a week or two ago?

Because I have as much a right to post as you do nazrat.

nothing about 28mm? perfect!

Um, if even only 2 per cent of the 40K munchkins were to drift over to WW2 historical gaming wouldn't that be a good thing??

galvinm wrote:

Just wait a year for the newer version of the rules. Then again, there would be newer, better, shinier rules the year after that, and the year after that, and so on and on and on.

Remind us just how many versions of Warhammer Ancient Battles have been published to date.

"Um, if even only 2 per cent of the 40K munchkins were to drift over to WW2 historical gaming wouldn't that be a good thing??"

I suppose that depends on how many SS armies with Tiger support you want to face across the table.

What a selection of sad responses.

Its a shame, given that WAB seems so popular, as indeed do all the Warhammer Historical lines, that we have such a vocal group react in such a manner at the 'thought' of GW doing a historical game.

Did they all go off on one when WAB came out? Did your world end because of it?

I find it rather laughable that this mass hysteria happens each time GW/Warhammer Historical release something.

Get over it.

Some people enjoy their products and many who do don't play their 'core' system either.

I also doubt there will be figures, they have released very few to support their historical games other than a few vignettes.

So rather than grabbing your torches and pitchforks (as you usually do here and make the wargaming community look like a bunch of s) why not take the chip off the shoulder and consider the possibility that this may bring in new players to the hobby (God forbid that might happen) and inject some new vitality into things.

Of course, feel free to carry on with the whole rabid anti-GW, we are all doomed sentiments, but it does make forums like this, that are a gateway to the hobby, seem like they are populated by a bunch of bigots.

Feel free to and hit that ! button… I'm sick of the pathetic moaning that wargamers put out against every new product that comes out. Your hobby is growing, try and be a little pleased!

Seriously, as my Mum would say – Grow up.

"Did they all go off on one when WAB came out?"

Actually… yes. There was a good bit of unreasoned knee-jerking then, too.

"…it does make forums like this, that are a gateway to the hobby, seem like they are populated by a bunch of bigots."

Oh, they are, truly. Did you never see the CA board? Now, of course, it's mostly hidden away on the Blue Fez, because hidden bigotry is oh so much better.

Allen

Gentlemen, there is no fighting in the war room!

Does it matter?

If the book looks nice it will sell. If not it won't.

If the rules are easy to use and fun, people will play them.
If not, they won't.

There is nothing to fear and even less to get upset about.
Mick

Excellent point, Derek, and nicely said Piers!

Oh, and Allen you ALWAYS seem to make great comments on stuff like this.

I won´t care too much for the rules, although I will read them, but I would like to see a 20mm wwii miniature line from games workshop. i like their LOTR miniatures, and their historical minis.

I will not, I think, be completely happy with my wargaming lot until I can assault Hub-to-Hub King Tigers with waves of Skaven.

This announcement only brings that great day closer. Hoora.

Pat

i'm quite prepared to actually wait, judge the rules when they come out and try them for a few games.

If i don't like them, no one will force me to play them, surely?

regards

jim

Everything Mick in Switzerland says.

I have 20mm armies ready to go waiting for a go, meanwhile they may be involved in a few Rapid Fire and Panzermarsch battles.

Tally Ho!

Any announcement of new 20mm miniatures is good news until proved otherwise.

For me it is economics. The costs to stocking a GW WW2 systemdoes not sound bad . However the 20mm scale rather than 28mm or 15mm scale products is the least requested size when I go to shows.

The 20mm market for BP Cast which is in limited production and Baxter's FAA out of nashville may see a bump in sales among those gamers who do not have to have GW produced castings in the 'army'.

No local GW players to entice to slide in historicals. Carrying the product to conventions where there are one or more stores dominated by GW products does not make carrying their stock profitable as well.

So to will not be profitable for me to sink between $1,000 USD and $2,000 USD into GW WW2 stock for my store. The turnover will not be there. I would special order the rules for clients but would recommend that they check direct with Baxter's at FAA for 20mm castings.

They haven't announced miniatures. And if previous activity from Warhammer Historicals is anything to go on they will be producing rules without accompanying miniatures.

May cause a bump for RAFM out of Canada sales of its 20mm as well. They have some nice but limited variety of vehicles.

ive been on the GW site, the Forge world site and the Warhammer historical site, there is no mention of any of this…what are you all going on about?

Steve

I won´t care too much for the rules, although I will read them, but I would like to see a 20mm wwii miniature line from games workshop.

Have you read/played the rules to know this already? Or are you just "not caring for the rules" before knowing what they are or how they play, in order to stay ahead of the crowd?