ScottWashburn | 09 Dec 2009 8:31 a.m. PST |
I've now read two books, "A Time for Trumpets" and "Alamo in the Ardennes" which relate the rather amazing story of General Fritz Bayerlein and an American nurse. Supposedly, General Bayerlein, the commander of the Panzer Lehr division, spent the better part of a crucial day during the early stages of the Battle of the Bulge "dallying" with a beautiful American nurse that his men had captured. The source of the story is Bayerlein, himself, as told to his interrogators after the war. Now it seems very odd that Bayerlein would make up such a story since it hardly enhances his reputation as a general (although one never knows, Bayerlein did a lot of work as a technical advisor in Hollywood after the war, perhaps he was a frustrated show man). But if the story is true, who was this woman? I've read that some American nurses were captured when the Germans overran some field hospitals. But the number has to be few. It should be possible to identify who she was. Why hasn't she ever come forward? What happened to her after her day with Bayerlein? It seems like a remarkable story. Anyone here know anything about the beautiful blonde who helped save Bastogne? |
John the OFM | 09 Dec 2009 8:36 a.m. PST |
He may have just been killing time, waiting for his men to find a bridge that the Engineers had not yet blown up. What better way to pass the time? |
bobstro | 09 Dec 2009 8:48 a.m. PST |
I can only think that being dallied with whilst a prisoner of war perhaps wasn't as much fun for the nurse. I don't often see having been over-run by the enemy described as much of a turn on from the woman's perspective. - Bob |
Dan Cyr | 09 Dec 2009 11:11 a.m. PST |
Worked against Lord Howe during the NY campaign (smile). An old American ploy, hey? Dan |
Mserafin | 09 Dec 2009 11:13 a.m. PST |
It also worked against the entire staff of the Army of Tennessee at Spring Hill, as well. Cherchez le femme, indeed! |
dmclellan | 09 Dec 2009 11:21 a.m. PST |
Earl Van Dorn had a little problem with this issue as well. |
JackWhite | 09 Dec 2009 11:21 a.m. PST |
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Baggy Sausage | 09 Dec 2009 11:29 a.m. PST |
I think it was Hot Lips mom. |
Tankrider | 09 Dec 2009 2:30 p.m. PST |
To the winner.. goes the spoils. Well at least he was winning at THAT point. |
rddfxx | 09 Dec 2009 4:45 p.m. PST |
Er, Hot Lips was a major by 1951-2, so no doubt it was her and not mom. |
archstanton73 | 09 Dec 2009 5:33 p.m. PST |
Are you sure it wasn't a male nurse????? |
Jamesonsafari | 09 Dec 2009 6:38 p.m. PST |
Not really something to be talking about when you get home in '45 or '46. Either you were raped or you were enjoying it. Folks wouldn't be terribly understanding even if you did help distract a key German commander. |
John the OFM | 09 Dec 2009 7:31 p.m. PST |
He probably thought he was being galant. She was probably scared out of her wits. |
aercdr | 09 Dec 2009 8:23 p.m. PST |
and let us not forget Santa Anna at San Jacinto (allegedly dallying away the time with a senorita when the Texans attacked). |
DJButtonup | 10 Dec 2009 7:48 a.m. PST |
We're too quick to besmirch the nurse's honor! A dalliance does not imply engaging in the natural, zesty enterprise. |
bobstro | 10 Dec 2009 8:22 a.m. PST |
I think we're crediting Bayerlein with too much honor, frankly. He probably joked about how his boys were playing a friendly game of soccer with the PoWs at Malmedy too. |
Mserafin | 10 Dec 2009 9:47 a.m. PST |
It wasn't Bayerlein's men (Panzer Lehr) at Malmedy, it was Peiper's (1st SS Panzer). |
ScottWashburn | 10 Dec 2009 9:47 a.m. PST |
Actually Bayerlein does have the reputation for having been a pretty decent guy (his troops were nowhere near Malmedy, that was Pieper's boys). I have managed to find a little on-line info on the nurse. One writer claims that she was with the 42nd Field Hospital and that her last name might have been Asselin. |
bobstro | 10 Dec 2009 9:50 a.m. PST |
My point wasn't that he was responsible for Malmedy, but that his perspective was probably not the same as the nurse's regarding the events of those dates. I suspect most women serving in the military don't find capture by the enemy an arousing experience. I find her reluctance to come forward unsurprising. - Bob |
tuscaloosa | 10 Dec 2009 11:51 a.m. PST |
Amen. Not exactly the kind of thing to share with the boys (girls) sitting around the VFW of an evening. |
Dan Cyr | 10 Dec 2009 1:03 p.m. PST |
Ask the nurses captured at Hong Kong or Manila. Dan |
ScottWashburn | 11 Dec 2009 4:08 a.m. PST |
We seem to be slipping away from the point of my original post. I'm not trying to find out lurid details of this woman's (no doubt terrifying) experience, I'm trying to find out if she even existed. Or if the whole incident was just fabricated by General Bayerlein. |
bobstro | 11 Dec 2009 5:34 a.m. PST |
Whether or not he spent the day accosting a prisoner? I see no reason it wouldn't have happened. He had the power of life or death over her. It does seem odd he'd brag about it. - Bob |
badger22 | 11 Dec 2009 8:24 a.m. PST |
Maybe he was just drunk, but thiought that would get him in big trouble, but hanging out with a captured american Nurse would be acceptible in Nazi circles. Or even just fell asleep, he was old enough to do just that, but that does not cutr a very dashing figure. |
Ross Mcpharter | 12 Dec 2009 12:18 p.m. PST |
I'm pretty sure somebody nailed this a couple of years ago,and that it in fact happened. It was either somebody from the paper wargames side like Danny Parker (highly likely as he is probably the leading authority on the bulge) or Joe Youst but my memory fails me here. Further it was discussed heavily on one of the WW2 discussion boards where pictures were shown of the American Nurse and her life post war was given as well. It may have been the Axis History Forum. It has also been claimed that Bayerlein also dallied earlier with a Belgian lady as well, but whether this is an error or a mistake for the American nurse I don't know. Manteuffel blamed Bayerlains delays for the failure of the Germans to take Bastogne before 101st AB turned up |