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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP05 Dec 2009 1:30 p.m. PST

For a Post-Apocalyptic table, I'm thinking of getting this Apache. It is listed as being 1/100:

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Actually, I may end up getting two, since my ultimate goal is to make large wreckage sections out of them (sticking out of rubble).

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QUESTIONS:

What do you guys think? Would it work for 15mm figures like Rebel Minis, QRF and others?

Or do you know of any other(s) that would work better and would not cost an arm and a leg?

Thanks.

Dan

Personal logo cloudcaptain Supporting Member of TMP05 Dec 2009 1:38 p.m. PST

The Ertl diecast one is supposedly 1/100 and is really nicely done IMHO. There are several up on ebay cheaply at the moment. As it is diecast it will survive the wear and tear of gaming and is good to go out of the package.

Top Gun Ace Inactive Member05 Dec 2009 2:09 p.m. PST

At that price, I would get three.

Two for aerial use, and one to serve as a downed craft for rescue games, etc.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP05 Dec 2009 2:15 p.m. PST

Top Gun Ace,

Do you mean the Revell-Monogram one in my original post, or the ERTL one suggested by CloudCaptain?

Thanks.

Dan

Personal logo GeoffQRF Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Dec 2009 2:28 p.m. PST

Would it work for 15mm figures like Rebel Minis, QRF and others?

Our Apache works well with our figures ;-)

Top Gun Ace Inactive Member05 Dec 2009 2:41 p.m. PST

It depends upon the price of the ERTL one. Haven't seen it, that I can recall.

For $5.00 USD though, the model will be great for a crash site, since it is already in pieces, and you can cut it up easily, if needed.

Wellspring Inactive Member05 Dec 2009 3:28 p.m. PST

I have 1:100 apaches, Hinds and Blackhawks. Next up is some Little Birds.

They look great next to my 15mm New Israelis.

Etranger05 Dec 2009 3:59 p.m. PST

There are plenty of decent 1/100 diecast choppers around if you have a look – Italeri have a range (which might be the same as the Ertl model), I've got a Wessex & a Little Bird from that series. One of the GF Fabbri periodicals had a whole series of 1/100 choppers including Hinds, Apaches & Huey Cobras.

I got mine for about $10 USD (Oz) each.

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Dec 2009 4:55 p.m. PST

yeps…now if we could just get a 1/100th CH-47, or CH-46….but hey…it is Christmas and stranger things have happened right?

Top Gun Ace Inactive Member05 Dec 2009 8:20 p.m. PST

Of course, they'll need that carrier Murphy is supposedly working on for launching, but that is a work in progress I believe.

Anyone know which one he decided on?

;-)

kyoteblue Supporting Member of TMP05 Dec 2009 10:26 p.m. PST

I've been telling him he needs to build the USS Richard (Tricky Dick) Nixon a stealth carrier.

CPT Jake06 Dec 2009 5:02 a.m. PST

I have some 1:100 blackhawks and love them. I did have one built 'crashed' for 15mm Ambush Alley games.

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and a shot of the crash site from a predator drone: picture

Sgt Duster Inactive Member06 Dec 2009 8:34 p.m. PST

Good looking models and at a good price. I'll have to see if I can find some.

Jemima Fawr06 Dec 2009 10:55 p.m. PST

Just keep trawling e-bay – you'd be amazed just how much stuff is/was available in 1/100th.

Re Italeri – don't just look at their military stuff. Their civilian models include such useful models as Wessex, Sea King, MBB-105 and quite a few others.

In addition to QRF and the myriad of diecast ranges, there are some plastic kits out there:

Revell did some lovely 1/100th helicopter kits – UH-1B Iroquois, UH-1D Iroquois, UH-60 Blackhawk, AH-1 Cobra, AH-64 Apache, Puma and Mi-24 'Hind D'.

Tamiya also did a very nice 1/100th range, but I'm not sure if they did any helicopters.

Heller also did a stack of kits, including a number of helicopters, but they weren't quite as good as the Revell offerings. I've got Alouette IIIs and Pumas from Heller.

Nu-Bee, a little-known old East German company, did some lovely Soviet helicopters, including Mi-1 'Hare', Mi-2
'Hoplite', Mi-4 'Hound' and Mi-6 'Hook' (my god that's a big kit!).

Bandai did some 1/100th jets and helicopters as part of their sci-fi big stompy robot range. These are easy to miss, but the kits always include historical weapons and decals, as well as the sci-fi stuff. I've not got any of their helicopters, but I did get a lovely MiG-23 'Flogger' from them.

I've also got a nice OH-58 'Kiowa' from a company called 'Pocket Pak Helicopters', but I've no idea what else they produced.

I'm afraid that I can't give you the direct link from my work computer, but if you go to fireandfury.com, then find the 'Orders of Battle' page, you'll find the Cold War orbats at the bottom. At the back of each is a list of what models are required for each army and who does/did them in 1/100th.

Also keep an eye out for toys – there is some really great stuff available in horrible, garish colours, just requiring a repaint. We managed to get a ton of UH-1Bs for £1.00 GBP each in horrible 'Eddie Stobart' (a UK famous haulage firm) green/red livery. The model itself was actually the same UH-1B model that went into the MUCH more expensive Dinky 'Nose Art' range! We've also found OH-1s on 'cheapo' toyshelves. The scale is never listed on these toys and generally is just 'what fits the box', but you can often get lucky.

chironex06 Dec 2009 11:04 p.m. PST

Tamiya: recently rereleased, I saw at Hobbylink Japan,they had a chopper or two, but these are not on the Tamiya website.
Aoshimas Battle Rotor seriesis ok too, but some items may have dodgy decals.
Revell- for some reason the Tigermeet hokum is cheaper…

Saginaw08 Dec 2009 4:03 p.m. PST

CC, I always use 1/100 models with 15mm miniatures, so you're good to go. thumbs up

Etranger08 Dec 2009 7:32 p.m. PST

Batlefront have their Hueys out now too. Nice, if pricy.

FritsK08 Dec 2009 11:39 p.m. PST

Bandai: any particular names I should look for? I know (from HLJ) that the Sylph is a nice fighter plane.

The combination of Bandai, "1/100" and helicopter doesn't do much in google:-)

Jemima Fawr09 Dec 2009 9:42 a.m. PST

Me neither – I found the MiG-23 by sheer fluke and some other models (including a CH-46 Sea Knight) were advertised on the side of the box. There was no maker's name on the box, but a friend who lives and works in Japan told me with some authority that they were originally made by Bandai, but had recently been bought out by someone else.

The model is REALLY nice – right up with Tamiya in terms of quality. The box included ground crew and fire extinguisher trolley, as well as a plethora of weapons options, including some odd sci-fi items alongside the pukka Soviet kit. The inside of the box-lid was also a printed concrete hardstanding, to use as a scenic base. Decals were Soviet, Czech and sci-fi.

Wellspring Inactive Member12 Jan 2011 8:08 a.m. PST

Update: the ones I got from Kangnam look great and were CHEAP. Perfect for 15mm gaming.

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(I got the Apache, Hind and Blackhawk when they were on sale for $2.50 USD each. Even at the higher price they're still a good deal IMO.)

Battle Miniatures Emporium Inactive Member12 Jan 2011 8:12 a.m. PST

They look great.
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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2011 8:24 a.m. PST

Beautiful!

Dan

tuscaloosa12 Jan 2011 10:05 a.m. PST

Out of curiosity (and sorry for the sidetrack) for helos in modern skirmish type games, do you leave the rotors on or put on plastic disks, or leave the rotors off entirely?

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2011 11:00 a.m. PST

CC, not sure if you have Fred Meyer or Krogers stores in Texas, but the Fred Meyer stores here in Washington carry the Revell snap-tite kits for $4 USD to $5 USD each. I haven't seen any helicopters, but it might be worth checking out.

Personal logo SmokeyRoan Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2011 12:08 p.m. PST

LOL at GeoffQRF's comment. Well done! :)

cacique, link is not working for my laptop, so I don't know, but how is the 1/100 scale Matchbox Apache and Blackhawk? did they work for you?

clkeagle Inactive Member18 Jan 2011 12:22 p.m. PST

Another helicopter that I thought had lots of potential in 15mm is this one:

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It came in 5-packs with the famous Armored Response (SWAT) vehicle, so I ended up with four of them. Rather than just tossing them out, I thought I'd eventually repaint them and use them in nearer-future settings

Scaled with 15mm minis, it looks like a two-seat attack bird. There are pylons on each side where you could mount some spare chainguns or missiles.

Chris

John Bear Ross18 Jan 2011 6:29 p.m. PST

Michaels art stores sometimes have pre-painted, unassembled model kits of A-10s, AV-8Bs, and F-16s in 1/100th scale. I've also wondered about the snap-together Star Wars kits there…the dimensions look awfully close…

Best,
JBR

SirFjodin01 Apr 2013 4:01 a.m. PST

I have 2 spare 15mm Apache helicopters
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Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2013 9:20 a.m. PST

As an aside, I have a bunch of unassebled 1:100 MI-24's if anyone is intersted!

SirFjodin01 Apr 2013 2:04 p.m. PST

1:100 mi-24 sounds great. What manufacturer?

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2013 3:22 p.m. PST

Sir Fj, ill check when I get home and get back to you. I think I have b/t 6-8 of them!

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2013 6:31 p.m. PST

Sorry, could only find 4 of them. They are by Tamya.

Shoot me email interested:
Kenshin68@roadrunner.com

Personal logo GeoffQRF Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Apr 2013 1:47 a.m. PST

…you sure about that? Revell made a 1/100 Hind. Not sure Tamiya ever did…

Tamiya's Hind was 1/72: link

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2013 3:09 p.m. PST

Ill double check ;-)

werwulf Inactive Member02 Apr 2013 6:30 p.m. PST

Just of note R Mark Davis may be mistaken about the 1/100 Bandai Helicopter/Aircraft kits. I believe they are Takara Kits for the Anime "Area 88". They did a big line, Mig-23, F-100, F-8, Kifr, A-4, Harrier and A-10's just to name a few. As far as I know Bandai never did any helicopters or aircraft in 1/100.

Tamiya do a wonderful line of 1/100 scale aircraft that are still available or have been reissued by a company called BEN. They include Mig-21, Mig-19, F-105, F-4E, A-4E, Buccaneer, Mirage III, A-6, IL-28. To add to that they also did a line of Helicopters that are hard to find but not impossible, which included Bell 209, the prototype of the AH-1G. Also included are AH-1G, UH-1B, CH-54 Skyhook, Sea King and UH-46 Sea Knight. Again they are hard to find but not impossible as just recently I was able to get 3 Sea Knights and 2 Sea kings.

Also, note of warning on the Heller kits, not all of them are 1/100. There is a site that lists every 1/100 scale Aircraft and Helicopter, the link escapes me at the moment but 21st Century war gamers sounds familiar. This site notes that the Heller kits of the Ferlon and a couple others are 1/144 not 1/100

Geoff, I second your thoughts on the Tamiya Hind. Only 2 companies have made Hinds Revell and Kangna, which is a copy of the revel. I think the South Korean Company ACE is also producing them now.

The only other company no one has added to this list, and I REALY should keep to myself, is ROSKOPF. They do a line of 1/100 scale aircraft and Helicopters as well as armour. The choppers include, CH-53, Puma, CH-34, UH-1D, MBB B0-105. There go my easy snags on Ebay of CH-53's, Puma's and CH-34's. Again these are very rare and do get pricy, but deals can sometimes be had, the last CH-53 I got was $20 USD shipped from Germany.

As for the East Germany Company, they are called VEB and do the kits mensioned by Mr. Davis. The Mi-6 is indead a BIG kit measuring over 40 Cm long, though it is the Civilian vesion with the square windows.

Hope this helps out my fellow 15mm gamers.

werwulf Inactive Member02 Apr 2013 8:55 p.m. PST

I found the list!

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Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP03 Apr 2013 5:24 p.m. PST

Geoff at QRF was correct, mine are Kangnam kits. But they are 1:100!

Personal logo GeoffQRF Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Apr 2013 12:40 a.m. PST

Ah, Hinds, Kangnam Style…

TurnStyle30 Apr 2013 2:03 p.m. PST

Shapeways has some nice 1/100 Alouettes as well…

Lion in the Stars30 Apr 2013 7:15 p.m. PST

Out of curiosity (and sorry for the sidetrack) for helos in modern skirmish type games, do you leave the rotors on or put on plastic disks, or leave the rotors off entirely?

Plastic disks magnetized to the mast for main rotors, glued on for the tail rotor.

Hurlbat Games are the guys to talk to: link

Evidently, they will do custom orders, since one gent insisted on the smaller rotor diameter for the UH-1Bs he had.

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