| Buzzkill | 03 Dec 2009 6:02 a.m. PST |
Is BF the only ones who make these in 15mm? I can't find them anywhere else. I would prefer to not have a based, resin model but it looks like that is the only option. Anyone know of another source? |
| BCantwell | 03 Dec 2009 6:06 a.m. PST |
To my knowledge, no one else has made the Steyer truck. I've looked for one for years, since I'm not a fan of the based, resin trucks either. Brian |
| freerangeegg | 03 Dec 2009 6:10 a.m. PST |
Quality Castings do a nice Krupp one.
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| Vis Bellica | 03 Dec 2009 6:28 a.m. PST |
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aecurtis  | 03 Dec 2009 7:29 a.m. PST |
Quick Reaction Force has made a Steyr for a couple of years now: link …along with a staff car and light cargo truck on the same chassis: link link As I have commented on numerous occasions previously… [bang] [bang] [bang] …they are nice models. My only criticism would be that the wheels are a bit small. Battlefront still makes the un-based, resin amd metal Steyr as code GE425. For the Steyr, there is no difference between its application as a Kfz69 and Kfz70. If you want a Krupp (where there *is* a difference), QRF makes one. So most of the Steyr 1500 options are covered: link I would like to see a Steyr 2000A for late in the war. Allen |
| freerangeegg | 03 Dec 2009 8:01 a.m. PST |
If its a field car you're after Skytrex/old glory do a Horch one:
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| Buzzkill | 03 Dec 2009 8:18 a.m. PST |
Thanks Allen, I just found the QRF model and was coming back to post that I had found one, but you guys are too quick. I am working on a FOW force that is heavy with Kfz 70's (which I think refers to the function, rather than a specific vehicle, but I could be wrong) and need a bunch of those trucks. The FOW version is closed top, the QRF is open topped which leads me to my next question; where do the windows go when the top comes off? |
| aecurtis | 03 Dec 2009 8:21 a.m. PST |
Ummm… Battlefront and Flames of War have really distorted things by implying that the Horch is a "field car" and the Steyr is a Kfz. 70. "Kfz. 70" simply indicated the function of the vehicle required in an organization. Any of several types of vehicle could be issued to fill that slot: a Krupp, a Horch, a Steyr. Maybe we should insist on properly calling the class of vehicle (under the Einheits-Fahrgestelle system) the Schwerer gelaendegaengiger Einheits-Pkw! Oh, the misspellings… Allen |
| Buzzkill | 03 Dec 2009 8:35 a.m. PST |
OK, so I am right, I can use something other than a Steyr 1500 when they call for a Kfz 70? Thats good, because I prefer the look of the Krupp Protze with that sloped nose, very cool looking. |
| aecurtis | 03 Dec 2009 9:30 a.m. PST |
Right; here are several versions of Krupp "Protze" (Boxer), just in case any manufacturers might be stimulated: link Keep in mind, though, these Krupp L2s were only built up though 1942 (as was the Horch 108), and then were gradually replaced by the Steyrs, which had commenced production in 1941. Allen |
| aecurtis | 03 Dec 2009 9:42 a.m. PST |
"The FOW version is closed top, the QRF is open topped which leads me to my next question; where do the windows go when the top comes off?" Scroll down here until you see the German fellow sunning in a pair of shorts: link As you can see, the sidescreens were not solid, but were made of canvas and plastic, and fastened on as needed. So they'd be folded up and stowed when not in use. You can also see them here: picture and here: picture Same on the 2000 when it was introduced: picture In other words, I probably wouldn't attach these side "frames" as BF did on their *non* one-piece resin model: picture The command sedan variant, though, had roll-up windows: picture Allen |
| Jovian1 | 03 Dec 2009 9:59 a.m. PST |
Dang – I wish they were cheaper – I think I need about 30 trucks of the Kfz 70 type for my projects thus far – possibly more. Argh. |
| aecurtis | 03 Dec 2009 10:14 a.m. PST |
If I were looking for economy, I'd go with the Old Glory/Skytrex Horch: picture I am also not averse to using the OG/CD Opel 1.5T as a substitute for a Kfz. 69: picture Allen |
| aecurtis | 03 Dec 2009 11:04 a.m. PST |
But any company who is willing to make Mercedes 1500 Kfz. 70s: link …or better yet (scroll to the bottom of the page), an Opel "Blitz" Kfz. 70 for the Kriegsmarine: link ..is more than welcome to do so! Allen |
| Jovian1 | 03 Dec 2009 11:55 a.m. PST |
Why with the Skytrex – do you get all three in the pack for 6 pounds? |
| Buzzkill | 03 Dec 2009 11:56 a.m. PST |
aecurtis said: If I were looking for economy, I'd go with the Old Glory/Skytrex Horch: Bingo! Thats what I'm going to do. Thanks for the idea. |
| aecurtis | 03 Dec 2009 12:09 p.m. PST |
"Why with the Skytrex – do you get all three in the pack for 6 pounds?" Skytrex sells them singly, but it should contain bits for all three top versions. But the pics on the site are good. Then if you're an Old Glory Army member, you trot over to Old Glory; they're normally three for $22.00, but with the OGA, take off 40%… Allen |
| Buzzkill | 03 Dec 2009 5:01 p.m. PST |
Warweb.com has them for $13.20 USD for 3, that would be the aforementioned 40% off I guess. |
| WarHighlander | 10 Jan 2010 5:15 p.m. PST |
If you don't like the Resin BF Steyr trucks, you can still buy the metal ones, but they're much more expensive. GE425 Steyr 1500 Kfz 70 (x2) $18.00 USD |
| Archeopteryx | 13 Dec 2012 4:48 a.m. PST |
Peter Pig makes a Steyr 640. These were built for the austrian army, but were used by 2nd and 9trh Panzer divsions between 1939-42 in the Kfz 70 role, and as ambulances by the DAK. Cool looking truck – there is also an image of one in Normandy, so some must have been brought back into service in the western campiagn. link (scroll down) |
