"GW doing WWII" Topic

"I actually ASKED in a GW store today and they knew absolutely nothing about any proposed WW2 release"

The GW stores do tend to be completely ignorant of WH releases.

"They completely fail to make any obvious mention on their website."

They don't have WH stuff on their site. You'd have to follow the link to Forgeworld, then follow the link to WH, currently not the most informative website.

GW is more expensive unless your world is limited to GW, Foundry and Privateer Press.

"1:72 is never 20mm, no matter how many wargamers click their heels 3 times and wish it so."

The average height of a 20mm model these days matches that of a 1/72 model.

24 plastic figures at GW – £16.00 GBP GBP ~67p each

Their latest plastic Skaven link are 20 figures for £30.00 GBP £1.50 GBP each.

The GW stores do tend to be completely ignorant of WH releases.

duh, its not part of what they sell. like buying pva from a hardware shop rather than GW. It's not something they are supposed to say even if they know about it.

I am a big fan of flames of war and woud probably continue playing it anyway.

BUT

I do have a lot of 20mm figures, which I had to reluctantly abandon as the FOW Nazis refuse to play anything but 15mm with FOW despite the fact 15mm and 20mm models are only slightly different in size.

As such a set of rules that allowed me to use the 20mm again, that i actually liked, would be a good thing.

Personally i think GW have gone for 20mm as they know they are unlikely to beat battlefront in the 15mm market, they are too well established.

There are an awful lot of 20mm models out there and about the only set of rules aimed primarilly at them seems to be rapid fire. An old set of rules I have played many times and always hated.

Most of the "new" WW2 rules seem to be skirmish level games based around 28mm figures.

Whilst in theory any ruules could be played with any scale, todays gamer increasingly likes to conform to "the norm". Not like that when i was a lad many a decade ago :)

Andy

When we had to roll our dice uphill from both sides of the table?

I think it has to do that lo many years ago there where so few rules, and many of them had so many gaps, we all just had to adapt, or be unable to play.

Now you can almost get tailored rules for the sort of game you want. So instead of adapting anything, they just want to get a set for that scale. I play a lot og BGWWII, but prefer to use 15mm figures/tanks. Especialy tanks. it is like I want to fart in church.

"duh, its not part of what they sell."

You're right, big 'duh' on me for explaining to someone else the bizarre fact that a GW shop's staff doesn't know about GW's own products -- by company design. I'm such a stupid-head!

"like buying pva from a hardware shop rather than GW. It's not something they are supposed to say even if they know about it."

Warhammer Historical was a GW company and is now a part of Forgeworld, one of GW's other companies. It's not a competing product.

Duh.

WH is under Forgeworld which is under GW but that doesn't mean the shops sell WH or even much Forgeworld. The three are seperate in real shop sales terms.

It's like expecting Barclays bank to offer Woolwich policies. Woolwich is owned by Barclays but the two remain seperate for real "on the street" trading. How many Woolwich cashiers could tell you what Barclays latest Credit account terms were?

I'll tell you, none. We don't expect them to either. So why do we expect GW's minimum wage grunts to have such omnipotent knowledge?

ConfusedTMPer.com

The GW stores do tend to be completely ignorant of WH releases.

What is WH here- if it is Warhammer then that is GW surely- forge world is the 'specialist games' (as in 'specialist' is a synonym for 'good').

If WW2 is a Forgeworld thing then the shops won't know, agreed.

I popped in and out of Foundry(HYW ranges)whilst writing this.
12 figs £15.00 GBP
25 £29.95 GBP

£1.25, although they are metal figures

I suppose I should also have included that I was really only thinking about fantasy miniatures as I don't currently do historicals of any kind. Are their discounters of the other brands? I know for GW, with very little looking, I can get 20% off retail.

What is WH here

Presumably: WH = Warhammer Historical (also abbreviated as WHH).

Their latest plastic Skaven link are 20 figures for £30.00 GBP GBP £1.50 GBP GBP each.

True for the stormvermin, but the clanrats seem to be 20 figures for £20.00 GBP so £1.00 GBP each.

WEhy would anybody enjoy being a rat? I just never got that. One of my friends that always played them claimed it was because he could lose and not really care because they where just rats.

Hopefully we dont get skaven WWII. I shudder at the thought.

I dunno, but I loved them on first sight – I was buying units of them for my chaos army before they were even called Skaven – they were chaos ratmen back then.

And I am not alone – they are a surprisingly popular army.

Pat

Oh I get that they are popular. I just dont get WHY. But, they do make good opponents. As long as we dont see them crewing PZ IVs it will be OK.

The kids growing up, playng a WH WW2 variant and then discovering the rest of the hobby still makes more money for them than the kids growing up and giving gaming away altogether!

Shame that Firefight did not show its head, loved to see what they did with a modern setting…