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raducci14 Nov 2009 12:36 a.m. PST

I suppose there are not any good ones but I have been reading about the two battles that took place in The Wilderness in the ACW.
Visibility, direction, lack of artillery support, forest fire: does it get worse?

Wargamer Blue14 Nov 2009 12:40 a.m. PST

Kokoda.

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BCantwell14 Nov 2009 12:27 p.m. PST

Defintely anywhere in the SW Pacific – Kokoda, Buna-Gona, Guadalcanal, etc. You have many if the same problems as The WIlderness but add malaria, jungle rot, and torrential rains.

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Nov 2009 1:22 p.m. PST

Fighting in the Alps during winter in WWI probably would not have been a good thing. I agree about the Pacific SW in WWII. Not a nice place to fight.

Thanks,

John

Dropship Horizon14 Nov 2009 1:23 p.m. PST

Not just SW Pacific – Kokoda/Buna.

Cheers
Mark

Fat Wally14 Nov 2009 1:34 p.m. PST

Whilst I agree about the Pacific you have to mention Stalingrad.

Griefbringer14 Nov 2009 1:55 p.m. PST

Sahara also tends to have a fair share of challenges.

altfritz14 Nov 2009 1:56 p.m. PST

Northern Finland/Norway during WW2

RavenscraftCybernetics14 Nov 2009 3:34 p.m. PST

Any battlefield that I actually have ot fight on.

Lentulus14 Nov 2009 5:19 p.m. PST

Anything involving the combination of machine guns and generals born before the invention of the magazine rifle.

galvinm14 Nov 2009 5:43 p.m. PST

Western Front or the Isonzo front during WWI. Rain, mud, cold….

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP14 Nov 2009 6:05 p.m. PST

Hurtgen Forest?

Actually, I have always thought that a Murmansk Convoy would be the epitome of misery.

quidveritas14 Nov 2009 8:32 p.m. PST

I find arctic, desert and jungle terrain all have their charms. Why do we insist on fighting wars in these places anyway?

mjc

tmy 193914 Nov 2009 8:44 p.m. PST

This list will be long and depressing. Two more to add the Siachen Glacier and the Falkland Islands.

Barks114 Nov 2009 8:52 p.m. PST

The Somme would get me down.

Feet up now14 Nov 2009 8:53 p.m. PST

The open sea against a ship with bigger guns.

Major Mike14 Nov 2009 9:30 p.m. PST

I'll have to look for the name of the island, it is near Cape Glouchester (WWII). In addition to the jungle and all that goes with it, there was only one fresh water source. A dead, rotting soldier lay at one side of the small pool and soldiers filled their canteen form the opposite side until combat action disturbed the corpse and completely fouled the pool.
A friends father fought up at Attu, it also should rate highly.

Major Mike14 Nov 2009 9:34 p.m. PST

Here is the link, it is Noemfoor Island, Oh, it also include canabalism.

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Tom Bryant14 Nov 2009 9:40 p.m. PST

Kohima and Imphal would have to rank up there as well as Peleliu and Tarawa.

zippyfusenet14 Nov 2009 10:11 p.m. PST

No doubt there were battlefields with worse terrain…but the Chickamauga battlefield was so heavily wooded that Union commander Rosecranz pulled an entire division out of the center of his battle line, opening a dangerous gap, without realizing he had done it. He couldn't see what he had done. This caused the collapse and rout of the Union army when a Confederate corps, purely by accident, stormed into the gap.

Steve Holmes 1115 Nov 2009 5:37 a.m. PST

In space, nobody can hear you scream…

The G Dog Fezian15 Nov 2009 9:14 a.m. PST

New Georgia in WWII nothing but jungle, hills, rain and mud.

Martin Rapier15 Nov 2009 9:40 a.m. PST

The Somme wasn't too bad (terrain wise) until the autumn rain set in, then it was a bit grim.

Third Ypres was hell on earth, torrental rain and the bottomless mud of a reclaimed swamp. Even the pillboxes sank into the mud.

The Stalingrad pocket wasn't a bundle of laughs either.

rdjktjrfdj15 Nov 2009 3:08 p.m. PST

The Sivash sea. For land operations.

platypus01au15 Nov 2009 10:46 p.m. PST

In the jungle, in the rain, where two map sheets meet….

G^is
JohnG

recon3516 Nov 2009 7:25 p.m. PST

Gallipoli

Cke1st17 Nov 2009 4:19 p.m. PST

How about a place with hot volcanic ash (almost impassable for vehicles) instead of soil, no cover to speak of, and the enemy commands the only high ground, which is a dormant volcano riddled with caves?

Iwo Jima.

Rod Robertson20 Nov 2009 7:54 a.m. PST

Any modern city.

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