"Should Panzeri resign from the HMGS BOD?" Topic

The reason for his departure from the presidency can only be because of a serious mistake in executive management.

Should he leave the board altogether to make room for a new member?

There doesn't seem to be anything he can do to help fix the situation that requires him to be on the board.

What is your agenda, PBN?

PBN…
First off…he's already resigned…

Secondly, if you will have read a previous post it was told that he resigned for personal and medical reasons.
You need not know anything else, and needn't try to stir up a pot of fecal matter…

Thirdly, if you REALLY need to know the "WHY" Panzeri resigned, (because the personal and medical reasons aren't good enough), then why don't you email him off site, and ask him directly?

I'm with OFM on this one…this topic isn't even needed and if Bill had a lock option, I'd request him to use it…

He resigned the Presidency, but is at least hanging around to help clean up the mess.

Not to compare the two, but Churchill actively sought out Chamberlain's advice.

Who would you replace Panzeri with, if he should follow your "advice"? And likewise the BOD, as you suggest in another thread?
Is there even a mechanism in the by-laws to deal with the mass sepuku you seem to be advocating?

My limited experiences with Pete were great, I got the impression he was a really good guy. Apparently PBN has never made any sort of mistake in his life, or is the sort to have no tolerance for others mistakes but would expect to be treated with kid gloves if he were to make one.

PBN, if what OFM is saying is true..then, ouch..sounds like a play straight from the Playbook of "The Joseph Stalin School of Corporate Executive Re-Alignment"…

This is a toxic thread. Pete Panzeri is a mensch

Should anyone really care if Paints grinds his axe over and over and over and over again?

Dude, this isn't discourse. Its beating a dead horse.

The reason for his departure from the presidency can only be because of a serious mistake in executive management.

totally gratuitous assertion on your part and can be dismissed gratuitously.

Its beating a dead horse.

OoOooohhh…it's equine necromancy and sado-masochism!!!!…

Wait…did I just say that out loud???

err….

Its beating a dead horse

No, it's someone behaving like a towards Pete.
--
Tim

Why the hate?

Get yourself up to date murph:

TMP link

The current BoD positions are as follows:
President: Frank Preziosa
EVP/Education: Jim Petrie
Treasurer: Dudley Garidel
Secretary: Michelle Preziosa
Convention Operations: Orest Swystun
Awards Program: Pete Panzeri
Outreach/Member Communication: Heather Blush

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Feel free to ignore the thread.

BTW, Isn't that a violation of Board Rules ??? tsk tsk.

No, it's better that he should be retained to help clear up any problems that came up as a result of the decisions and/or agreements that he signed on to while President. The old "you broke it, you fix it".

[Edit] Hey Grunt1861, I think you demoted him – I'm pretty sure that he made Major at least!

PB Numbers You owe Capt. Peter Panzeri and the rest of us an apology for your continued drivel. In fact I cordially invite you to step away from the keyboard,(AKA give it a rest)after you make said apology.
Capt. Panzeri has done quite a lot to promote and grow our little niche hobby. Like game design, author a best selling history book, organized and run several successful game conventions and has facilitated some of the best War Colleges I have had the pleasure to attend. His military career includes earning the Combat Infantryman's Badge and Bronze Star in Iraq, and several teaching assignments as Chief of Military History at the US Army Infantry School, Tactics Chief at the Military Intelligence School, and at the US Military Academy, West Point Prep.

So Paint By Numbers, what have you done lately to promote our little hobby? Hell Man, you're not even a supporting member of TMP.

Sorry but I for one think Pete is better than sliced bread. I'll support him regardless of what he decides to do.

mjc

"Hey Grunt1861, I think you demoted him – I'm pretty sure that he made Major at least!"

Oops!
I have been out of the loop for awhile. So, I didn't hear about his promotion. In fact it's been awhile since I have read anything respectful or positive about him. Which IMHO he most certainly deserves.

I'd guess Pete Panzeri is a lieutenant colonel (LTC). IIRC, we were within a year group or two from each other, and I've already retired as a LTC.

Rule 14.

HMGS Board of Director Update – Pete Panzeri has stepped down as President of the Board of Directors for both personal and medical reasons.

He resigned the presidency…as it already said…

And as for Awards…it's a lot easier than the President's job…so yeah…he can be there…

Dude..not sure what your issues are, (with Panzeri, the HMGS Bod, or the HMGS in general), but me thinks you need to lighten up…I mean…we're talking about a group of people that puts on GAME DAYS for people that play with TOY FREAKING SOLDIERS!

Perhaps if you would explain the basis of your angst…because right now your accussations of "Financial Mismanagement" being the reason for his departure as President of HMGS is unvalidated, and nothing more than gossip-mongering…

Grunt…let's see, Pete's most recent contribution to the hobby has been to facilitate the bankrupting of HMGS East…you have been out of the loop for a while…by the way just what have you done for "out little hobby"? Paying some money to support a website doesn't constitute a significant contribution.

db

"by the way just what have you done for "out little hobby"

A lot more than you.

I'm guessing some folks don't know some other folks…

OK, I have to say something. I dislike anonymous or semi-anonymous handles. This here is a reason why.

I don't know pancerni2 personally, but I know a good bit about what he's done over many years out on the East Coast, and I respect him for it. One item on his gaming resume makes him very well qualified to be concerned about financial issues.

I also know Grunt 1861, and have a pretty good idea what he's been doing over many years out here on the West Coast, and I respect him for it. I appreciate some of the selfless things he has done for the California gaming community.

So if you two would each kindly recognize that the other *might possibly* have a credible gaming background, too, I would be much obliged.

Thank you,

Allen

Keep it up, and I'll start talking about my kid's day at school, grandma's hip replacement, grandpas stools,…

Oooooh! my grandpa had stools…lots of them!
He'd get at least a couple a week, or so it seemed…
And he was okay…but when he didn't have any stools, he seemed sad and kinda miserable…
I've seen my grandpas stools…
a couple of the real big tall ones were sitting right there on the floor of his garage…
Then he had almost half a dozen more down in his basement, between his bar setup and the old wonky pool table…
Yeah…grandpa was always proud of his stools…

>your accussations of "Financial Mismanagement"

Libel !

>Those of us not in anyway involved in them or caring about them are getting seriously tired
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Try not reading any post with "HMGS" in the Subject line.

a) It is not a club.

b) Issues regarding HMGS conventions have the potential to affect many non-member gamers who attend the conventions, including a number who travel to the US to attend them.

Feel free to ignore the thread.

BTW, Isn't that a violation of Board Rules ??? tsk tsk.

as are obvious trolls.

I am sure the HMGS BOD are working hard to make everything better for mankind and HMGS members like myself, I wish them only the best. It is not an easy task running a HUGE convention as they are.
I hope all is well soon and the best for Pete, I think he is a great guy.

Inappropriate Thread. Personal bashing and attacks should not be tolerated. Especially the one sided variety. Issues only please.

I agree with vonLoudon.

I love Pete. So, he has my support.

(and Pete, I still have the dog biscuit you gave me at Nashcon)

>your accussations of "Financial Mismanagement"

Libel !

Oh?…I doubt it…Mistake yes…as it seems that I have misquoted you…but it hardly seems libellous…
But in the event that I did misquote you, hmmm…you said:

The reason for his departure from the presidency can only be because of a serious mistake in executive management.

Okay….so what "Serious mistake" are you referring to?…
Please explain, since obviously you think that Petes reasons as stated for leaving is merely "smoke and mirrors"…
Tell us…what's your reasoning?…what's your answer?…and as OFM said…what's your agenda?

>Okay….so what "Serious mistake" are you referring to?…

Dunno – the official details have not all emerged.

The question -- should he leave -- is perfectly polite & appropriate, at least to those of us who function in a democracy.

Look, I totally disagreed with the decision to move Historicon to Baltimore, for my own personal reasons. I made my opinion known on the appropriate boards.

Having said that, the President of HMGS has decided to step down for personal reasons. That is fine with me and I consider this closed. Like Murphy stated, I and the rest of us don't need to know any more, it is none of our business.

I generally don't like the idea of locking out a thread, unless that thread becomes a vehicle for the character assassination of someone who worked very hard for our hobby. I wish Pete and the rest of the BOD the best.

Ralph

Bleh

Dunno – the official details have not all emerged.

Wait…you mean you don't know WHAT the "serious mistake" you're ballyhooing about and accusing him of in this thread?
He resigns for reasons stated and instead you toss out "serious mistake"…
Let's see if what you said matches…

The reason for his departure from the presidency can only be because of a serious mistake in executive management.

Now..should I be like you and scream "Libel!", or should I just say that you are now doing nothing more than talking about your ???

And as to your question…that's for him and the BOD to decide..not us…
So deal with it and …

This is a toxic thread. Pete Panzeri is a mensch

I knew pete back when he was in high school, and I sure remember him as an ok guy.

I for one think Pete is better than sliced bread

I like that one, though I don't think there's any thing better than sliced bread, except maybe sliced cheese.

Also, to prove I know of what I speak, Jim Petrie is retired Navy, and he knew Pete when he was in high school too.

This thread is beginning to sound like … no one wants to describe it as it really is… Why did Pete resign? Because he has been the driving force behind the move to the BCC, which has been shown to be a flawed exercise and more importantly he has entered into agreements related to the BCC move that has put HMGS East in extreme financial danger. In addition he has instituted other spending programs within HMGS East that have depleted the treasury. The BoD had lost confidence in his leadership and he was given two choices, resign or be deposed. It is no more complicated than that…

And you know all these "facts" how exactly?

One should be a little more judicious in ones analogies.

I hate when Mommy and Daddy fight…..

pancerni2 11 Nov 2009 2:29 p.m. PST wrote:
This thread is beginning to sound like …

Dave that is really low. You should know better, I've had my run ins with him of late but crosses the line. It took me a minute to figure out what you were referring to. I am pretty sure .

VR
James Mattes

I was: 1981-1985. I take no offense.

A simile comparing a thread to a "lame defense" is not the same as comparing one person to another.

That wasn't a response to you, kb!

Unless you really have been to , and you have something to hide…