"The wild bunch is a violent film" Topic
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| M C MonkeyDew | 09 Nov 2009 2:43 p.m. PST |
Rocky, I don't recall anyone calling the characters "unrealistic", just they don't inspire one to care what happens to them as long as they end up out of circulation…just like real criminals. However films are not documentaries, no more then they need be historically correct. If there is no compelling story and no interesting characters no amount of blood, action, and slow mo death spirals will make up for that. |
| The Shadow | 09 Nov 2009 8:41 p.m. PST |
>>I think Peckenpah liked doing "no good guy" movies. Which career criminal in the Getaway is the good guy? Or "Pat Gerrett and Billy the Kid"? Or even Major Dundee.<< Steve Judd in "Ride the High Country" is certainly a "good guy". |
| Mr Brightside | 09 Nov 2009 9:50 p.m. PST |
Ride the High Country and the Shootist were both better ways of telling the "death of the West" theme. Ride the High Country made more sense and had a better shootout at the end. The fight was realistic (ie the winners were the ones who took their time and aimed while the losers pumped out as much lead as possible). The Shootist had a realistic shootout and an interesting take on the aging gunfighter. Most interesting was the part where John Wayne reveals that his greatest strength is really just the fact that he doesn't hesitate to kill. Of all the end of the west movies it has to be the best since it strikes a balance. It doesn't glamorize the "good old days" of violence (all the fights except for the clips at the beginning are up close and gritty). It also doesn't wallow in the guilt or moral implications of gunfighting like Unforgiven (although Bacall's character touches on it). The final message is that the West is over and its the best that way. As a bit of Trivia in the original script Ron Howard was supposed to put the mortally wounded Wayne out of his misery but Wayne insisted the character see the blood on the gun and throw it away. Just my two cents (don't take me wrong because I haven't seen Wild Bunch)
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| The Shadow | 10 Nov 2009 7:36 a.m. PST |
>>Ride the High Country and the Shootist were both better ways of telling the "death of the West" theme. Just my two cents (don't take me wrong because I haven't seen Wild Bunch)<< …ummm…it's hard enough to explain The Wild Bunch to people that *have* seen it. Maybe you ought to see it before you compare it to other films. Just a suggestion. I was just sayin'… (-: |
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